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Mr Spotty,
Yes BHX MAEL is rammed and 4 or 5 waiting also on the aprons to go in too.
Bit crazy really its rammed in the winter and very quiet in the summer, thank god for Fly Bes.
MAEL or whoever they become in the future could do with some foreign airline work in the summers, bitter loss, loosing Fly Dubai contract for example.
Yes BHX MAEL is rammed and 4 or 5 waiting also on the aprons to go in too.
Bit crazy really its rammed in the winter and very quiet in the summer, thank god for Fly Bes.
MAEL or whoever they become in the future could do with some foreign airline work in the summers, bitter loss, loosing Fly Dubai contract for example.
MAEL or whoever they become in the future could do with some foreign airline work in the summers, bitter loss, loosing Fly Dubai contract for example.
Absolutely normal in private industry.
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MAEL will be busy in winter as aircraft worked hard during summer and need a little TLC also aircraft coming off lease or up for sale coming in for
final checks before leaving fleet.
TCX and MAEL at manchester are the same.
final checks before leaving fleet.
TCX and MAEL at manchester are the same.
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Sale of. MAEL
I would imaging rumour started by someone has no idea what they are taking about
Suspect they are bored so let's. Make up some rumours
Regretfully by have nothing else.
Suspect they are bored so let's. Make up some rumours
Regretfully by have nothing else.
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" why should MAEL become anything else than MAEL in the future? "
Greybull Capital.
Very successful company specializing in buying and turning around companies..
They don't do it because they like the companies they fatten them up and sell the best bits off.
They bought and turned around Comet Electrical after stripping the unprofitable parts away.
So at Monarch they have the airline, a travel company and a Maintenance company.. so potentially have 3 areas they could sell.
MAEL is pretty successful and profitable , so there may be buyers out their that will be interested in them , if that happens Greybull may be tempted to sell and create a a new name above the hangar door.
Lets hope they don't and keep them all together under the Monarch name.
Greybull Capital.
Very successful company specializing in buying and turning around companies..
They don't do it because they like the companies they fatten them up and sell the best bits off.
They bought and turned around Comet Electrical after stripping the unprofitable parts away.
So at Monarch they have the airline, a travel company and a Maintenance company.. so potentially have 3 areas they could sell.
MAEL is pretty successful and profitable , so there may be buyers out their that will be interested in them , if that happens Greybull may be tempted to sell and create a a new name above the hangar door.
Lets hope they don't and keep them all together under the Monarch name.
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MAEL at Luton
Just curious with the new Hangars at Brum and the Luton hangars been pretty ancient and limited in size to what they can handle - is there much going on in these hangars these days or has Birmingham stolen their thunder?
You always use to see aircraft on the apron waiting to go in, but these days it is either empty or the airport uses the parking outside the hangars as remote stands, when busy for the usual turnarounds.
I might be mistaken, and they are busy overnight swapping the aircraft in and out, but the last 4-5 times in recent months I have been at the airport, there is little activity.
You always use to see aircraft on the apron waiting to go in, but these days it is either empty or the airport uses the parking outside the hangars as remote stands, when busy for the usual turnarounds.
I might be mistaken, and they are busy overnight swapping the aircraft in and out, but the last 4-5 times in recent months I have been at the airport, there is little activity.
Just curious with the new Hangars at Brum and the Luton hangars been pretty ancient and limited in size to what they can handle - is there much going on in these hangars these days or has Birmingham stolen their thunder?
I am guessing that the financial value of the Luton facility (especially if Monarch owns it), combined with the lower (employment) costs in the Midlands and Northwest would make selling off, or releasing the Luton facility and concentrating all MAEL operations at BHX / MAN a positive move for the new regime. Perhaps Luton Airport management would quite like the Monarch real estate for other purposes and might make the airline an attractive offer?
Only time will tell, but Greybull will be looking to fatten up the group for resale in 5 or so years time. That's their business, and that's surely their goal.
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I would like to make a few comments.
Greybull have a number of companies that they have been an investor in for over 10 years.
Stop bringing up Comet, they had no control over what happened, it is a little like blaming individual share holders, in for say BT, for the way BT operate.
With regards the hangars at Luton, yes you are correct in that Monarch Airlines don't need them, but it is not Monarch Airlines that matter. The MAEL hangers are all part of the Monarch Group, which the airline is only a part of.
By the way both Luton hangars were full up-until Friday, when the TOM B757 left.
Greybull have a number of companies that they have been an investor in for over 10 years.
Stop bringing up Comet, they had no control over what happened, it is a little like blaming individual share holders, in for say BT, for the way BT operate.
With regards the hangars at Luton, yes you are correct in that Monarch Airlines don't need them, but it is not Monarch Airlines that matter. The MAEL hangers are all part of the Monarch Group, which the airline is only a part of.
By the way both Luton hangars were full up-until Friday, when the TOM B757 left.
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On the Monarch site, when doing a search for flights to Bodrum from any London airport for S2015 no availability shows. However, it does say the flight does not operate the date searched, but the next date the flight operates is, that date being maybe a day or two later. Is it possible that they will operate these routes after all.
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More Pprune justification...
How do you know?
Got any proof? Copy?
Who were they sent to? From?
What were the answers??
Got any proof? Copy?
Who were they sent to? From?
What were the answers??
I know because my wife (who works in the industry) saw a copy of the email - I have no reason to doubt her.
Proof - I don't need any proof (see above).
Copy - I'm not prepared to ask her for one as I'm not prepared to expose who it was sent to (it was BCC'd), or who it was from as its not for me to expose their business.
What were the answers - I don't think their would have been any as it was a request for expressions of interest.
Learjet 50 - no, rumour - see above. Oh and I didn't say anything about a sale of MAEL.
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Luton Hangars
Should imagine any of the business aviation FBOs would be delighted to take over the Monarch hangars at Luton. The likes of Signature, Landmark and Harrods could fill them tomorrow with both passing traffic and residential aircraft. More money per square foot than you make from MX activities for mere storage. But shouldn't be limited to the incumbents, chances are several other business aviation outfits will also be biting at the bit like JetEx for instance, plenty of people wanting a foothold in the London area and Luton's the golden nugget with some 28,000 business aviation movements per annum. Think Landmark already use space in the Monarch hangar anyway?
Gulfstream, next door could also uses the space.
Gulfstream, next door could also uses the space.
fairflyer
This was the point I was trying to make in my posting #2588 above, in that it may make financial and business sense both for Luton Airport and Monarch Group for the MAEL facility at Luton to be closed and the work concentrated at MAEL in BHX and MAN.
Whether that happens is of course pure conjecture.
This was the point I was trying to make in my posting #2588 above, in that it may make financial and business sense both for Luton Airport and Monarch Group for the MAEL facility at Luton to be closed and the work concentrated at MAEL in BHX and MAN.
Whether that happens is of course pure conjecture.
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Just because someone posts something uncomfortable for you personally,doesn’t make it untrue.
I have no idea if the hangars are up for sale, but I’d suggest you don’t dismiss it.
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I have no idea if the hangars are up for sale, but I’d suggest you don’t dismiss it.
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Monarch Pilot's pension.