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Old 26th Sep 2016, 11:43
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Let's hope the CAA have not put the final nail in Monarch's coffin by unnecessarily jumping the gun on securing recovery charter flights. Reputation is everything in this business.
Good luck to all Monarch staff, fingers-crossed this will be another aviation storm you ride out.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 11:47
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UA2295 on finals into TFS, expensive exercise if all (hopefully) proves to be positive for the great guys n gals at Monarch.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 11:48
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FlightRadar only shows MON aircraft heading north to the UK, not a single southbound flight showing on FR24 at the moment. Is that in line with the regular schedule for a monday early afternoon?
Generally speaking you will have an early morning wave heading outbound from all points in the UK. By this time they are all on the way back. The next outbound wave will be around the 1500 mark.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:02
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Generally speaking you will have an early morning wave heading outbound from all points in the UK. By this time they are all on the way back. The next outbound wave will be around the 1500 mark.
So I assume check-in for this afternoon's flights is working normally across the UK?
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:11
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Just looking at BHX departures I note that the UNITED AIRLINES flight to LPA is cancelled and the MONARCH flight is still showing as scheduled for on time departure. The fact that a UNITED flight was originally scheduled indicates that all the rumours had some foundation.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:27
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Well, we know repatriation flights were lined up, and bearing in mind the costs involved with transatlantic heavy positioning flights there must have been real expectation.

However, rescue appears to be sufficiently likely for trading to continue. I doubt this "fresh investment" would be taken down to the wire by their owners, so we can only assume take over talks are in progress with a very sharp new investor who was willing to go in for a bit of brinkmanship to help bargaining. There is only one likely candidate and the sharp practice sounds all to familiar.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:40
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Now the first southbound afternoon flight has appeared on flightradar24, so business as usual for the time being apparently.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:40
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For the same reasons I'd book with any other carrier.

Unlike some airlines, Monarch is protected through the ATOL scheme, so you're in no danger of losing your money. If I've booked using my credit card (and taken the hit on the CC fee) my card company is responsible for refunding me. Finally, if the CAA are happy, then so am I.

I could book with a legacy carrier, and find myself stranded through industrial action; or I could book with another large, infamous lo-co carrier, not necessarily HQ-ed in UK, and find I'm left high and dry as a result of a short notice cancellation. There's risk in everything I do, and to every pound I spend.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:45
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Risk is relative, and also needs to be priced accordingly .

The hassle of your airline going bust is huge, and waiting for your CAA airlift or not getting there in the first place doesn't make any sense unless the ticket price is way cheaper.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:46
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Werid whatever is going on, do a search for N116UA, seems to have tomorrow flights loaded in now. Guess while it sits at PMI alls ok, but if it heads down towards LPA then somethings afoot....
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:46
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great news, lets get positive for them.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:47
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Was it really anything another than that virgin blue ......All flights arrived normally yesterday and all flights are operating normally today,

There must be a fair few dissapointed people on here now that things appear normal , Nothing like the prospect of hundreds of people losing there jobs to get the juices flowing eh?
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 12:57
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Monarch are in a fight for survival, and will act and say things accordingly.

It's up to customers and suppliers if they wish to enter into contracts with this type of animal.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:01
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Flights still being added, this morning a few UAL 744's trips between AGP and MAN have appeared. Doubt they'll operate it seems.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:07
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Not that it should be taken with too much credibility, the Daily Mail via the Press Association are reporting that Greybull are negotiating a sale once again bringing up the HNA Group as a possible buyer.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:10
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Was it really anything another than that virgin blue ......All flights arrived normally yesterday and all flights are operating normally today. There must be a fair few dissapointed people on here now that things appear normal , Nothing like the prospect of hundreds of people losing there jobs to get the juices flowing eh?
Yes, but normally you don't have a dozen or so planes sitting on the ground at Monarch's destinations, effectively filing flight plans for MON flights. So as far as I am concerned, it is perfectly legitimate to ask questions. How about, for example, people having to make decisions regarding future flight bookings or looking for a back-up plan if they have already entered into a contract with Monarch? Are they not entitled to ask what exactly is going on with their business partner to make informed decisions?
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:10
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A sale is one of the few options open to them.

They need proper backing ASAP, as confidence is very low in them and management .
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:15
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Looks like they may be about to get a rather wealthy new owner if the rumour mills right
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:23
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UAL have a flightplan in the system for N116UA

LEPA-GCLP-EGBB ...
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 13:24
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Looks like they may be about to get a rather wealthy new owner if the rumour mills right
If you mean HNA, that's been ongoing for months if the press back in April/May/June were correct. It was mentioned earlier in this thread at the time.
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