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Old 25th May 2014, 23:37
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The lady in NQY is doing what is expected of her. That is all I am saying.

If you do not like it, take it up with Newquay Airport Security team
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Old 26th May 2014, 00:46
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Photographic ID being required is something that the LoCo's introduced whilst there is no legal requirement to carry a passport between Cornwall and West Sussex.

One's UK passport remains the property of HM Government who forbid it being passed to any unauthorised person.

Have HM Government authorised Newquay Airport security access to one's passport during one's travels between Cornwall and West Sussex? ... I very much doubt it!
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Old 26th May 2014, 10:45
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Security check passport to ensure the boarding card is valid and in the possession of the correct individual. This is a check to ensure the passenger is allowed airside

Airlines check passport to ensure the boarding card is valid and in the possession of the correct individual. This is a check to ensure that the passenger is boarding the correct flight

Two similar checks but for very different reasons

I suspect there is small print everywhere that contradicts regulations and legislation. That's just the barmy world we live in

Anyway this is a boring subject really when we could be talking about NQY busy day on Saturday. Anyone know what the inbound loads were like and how many people descended on to NQY arrivals?
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Old 26th May 2014, 13:28
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Exclamation

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Only the British would be stupid enough to accept passport control between Cornwall and West Sussex.

The Yanks would be arguing "This is against our democratic rights, get out of here", much of the EU don't travel inter EU country with passports because there is no requirement for it, but between Cornwall and West Sussex you're suggesting that passengers need a passport to get airside?

Are you familiar with the landscape of St. Mawgan airfield, that if one wanted to "mess" with it the last thing one would need to do is transit through the terminal building?

It's a case of the modern day "jobsworth" mentality whereas they dictate a requirement whilst little do they realise that what they are dictating is actually unlawful ... I have a similar problem where I am with the local council.
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Old 26th May 2014, 13:30
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Is it not a case of requiring some sort of photographic ID whatever that might be ?



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Old 26th May 2014, 13:44
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Simon,

Go and copy and paste to here any kind of lawful legislation that passengers are required by Newquay Airport PFU to hold passports and/or photographic ID to board their aeroplane?
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Old 26th May 2014, 13:54
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There is no law that requires passengers on domestic flights to show photo ID. Many airlines require it to prevent people transferring bookings to another person as they offer that service for a significant charge.

Security only need to check boarding passes not ID.

ID is not checked at security at any of the UK airports I travel through regularly (MAN, EDI, GLA, ABZ, BHD, SOU etc), for domestic or international flights. ID checks are done at checkin and/or the boarding gate. But technically, for a domestic flight, there is no requirement to check ID at all. I have travelled BA to London several times without being asked for ID.
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Old 26th May 2014, 14:03
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Yes Cornishsimon

I have used my driving licence and passes I hold for other airports. I think BHX have got it a#se about face. Go into security, have boarding pass and ID checked. Put them away securely for later. Remove coat, laptops and empty pockets to go through X-ray. Then have a demand to check boarding pass again. So retreave case remove boarding pass and ID, but all they want to see is boarding pass. Fail to see the point and no point query with security as they are getting stressed as the queue is getting longer. Put boarding pass away go through X-RAY and all is good.

Having allowed plenty of time, due to the random obstacles thrown up in the line of duty, I have time to buy and read a paper. At check out demand to see boarding pass. Polity said it is packed away. Net result no pass no paper.....
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Old 26th May 2014, 22:01
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My airline used to require ID for domestic flights, no longer.

You can check in online, go direct to security, they want to see your boarding pass, boarding pass checked again at the gate (not ID), boarding pass checked again on entering aircraft.

My company even allowed a domestic passenger to fly without his boarding card on one occasion I remember - he claimed it was lost in the terminal, shouldn't have got past the gate though.
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Old 11th Jun 2014, 23:26
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Well we will soon see who gets the PSO for NQY-LON.
Its now open for tenders with the winning bidder expected to take over the route from October 2014.
Airlines invited to bid for Newquay to London air link | Newquay Cornwall Airport

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Old 13th Jun 2014, 21:28
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forgive my ignorance, who currently operate this route? Remember BA or one of their partners operating it back in the day.
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Old 13th Jun 2014, 23:34
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Flybe currently operate the NQY-LGW route twice daily.


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Old 14th Jun 2014, 07:15
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"winning bidder expected to take over the route from October 2014."

just as the weather goes sour and the tourist trade goes south

hell of a time to take over the route - probably 6 months of losses up front...................
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 07:57
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If it was profitable year round there wouldn't be a need for a PSO!
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 08:07
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If it was profitable year round there wouldn't be a need for a PSO!
It was profitable year round when Brymon operated it, all it takes is careful management and the appropriate size of equipment and FlyBE don't operate the appropriate size of equipment!

Someone like CityJet could make it work with the F50.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 08:22
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It would be very interesting to know who bids and what their proposal is. I find it hard to believe Flybe won't win the bid. They have invested a lot into NQY recently. The current Q400 night stopping there supports 3 other routes MAN, SEN & BHX. Newquay would be putting all these other routes at risk is some way if Flybe wasn't awarded the PSO route to LGW. I appreciate these routes could be done in reverse etc but that is quite a card Flybe hold over NQY. I'm biased of course and hope Flybe get the contract.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 08:37
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Even though the Council also own NQY, I wouldn't have thought they would be able to take the impact on other services/operators in to account when deciding the contract.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 08:50
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The current Q400 night stopping there supports 3 other routes MAN, SEN & BHX. Newquay would be putting all these other routes at risk is some way if Flybe wasn't awarded the PSO route to LGW
But wouldn't this represent a conflict of interests.

Back in the day the only mainland route out of NQY was LON, if one wanted to fly out of Cornwall there was only one route to travel.

But routes such as BHX, MAN and particularly SEN will be taking punters away from that subsidised LON route and, let's face it, if the operator can fill those seats and take the PSO subsidy aswell then they could be laughing all the way to the bank.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 09:04
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I wouldn't say laughing all the way to the bank. From what I understand the PSO will only subsidise a proportion of the aircraft on each route. I am led to believe it's about 20 odd seats. I still can't see how Ryanair and easyjet can make it work.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 09:11
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I still can't see how Ryanair and easyjet can make it work
How many times do the people in the know need to repeat it ... The NQY catchment area demands a 50 seater aircraft or less to operate any kind of route structure successfully, for Christ's sake stop thinking medium haul jets, this is quaint little Cornwall we're talking about!
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