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It would make sense if ORK became a 3 A/C base?
It also looks like STK have not taken up their options for additional A/C with MSN 1239 heading to Air Madagascar.
Perhaps a wise move with competition increasing on UK-Ireland routes with BE and VLM.
In all honesty, how long do we think the W6 CWL operation will last? REI will be back soon enough.
It also looks like STK have not taken up their options for additional A/C with MSN 1239 heading to Air Madagascar.
Perhaps a wise move with competition increasing on UK-Ireland routes with BE and VLM.
In all honesty, how long do we think the W6 CWL operation will last? REI will be back soon enough.
VLM - Nothing to fear
BE - Picking up scraps left by Stobart in recent years, DUB-INV/SEN/BOH, ORK-CWL all scrapped. DUB-CWL will go once the money taps stops, CWL better hope EIR don't leave before!
They need a year or two with moderate growth to ensure long term profitability, not exactly sure where additional capacity would be required currently anyway.
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A bit of a mess really, announced for a February start, double daily at least Monday and Friday, finally starts in April but by mid-May it is single daily, evening only except Saturday which only allows connectivity to long-haul on that one day?
It is showing double daily in winter for Monday and Friday.
BHX
The Shannon is still showing as a stand alone aircraft although it arrives back at BHX at 20.35 and the Cork departs 21.05. The Cork inbound shows 20.35 still but is it expected that Cork will see changes such as Edinburgh change times to send it to BHX instead or will BHX get an extra Dublin rotation in the afternoon/evening slot.
I assume that this has all been decided and it is just the booking engine that needs amending?
Pete
A bit of a mess really, announced for a February start, double daily at least Monday and Friday, finally starts in April but by mid-May it is single daily, evening only except Saturday which only allows connectivity to long-haul on that one day?
It is showing double daily in winter for Monday and Friday.
BHX
The Shannon is still showing as a stand alone aircraft although it arrives back at BHX at 20.35 and the Cork departs 21.05. The Cork inbound shows 20.35 still but is it expected that Cork will see changes such as Edinburgh change times to send it to BHX instead or will BHX get an extra Dublin rotation in the afternoon/evening slot.
I assume that this has all been decided and it is just the booking engine that needs amending?
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A bit of a mess really, announced for a February start, double daily at least Monday and Friday, finally starts in April but by mid-May it is single daily, evening only except Saturday which only allows connectivity to long-haul on that one day?
It is showing double daily in winter for Monday and Friday.
Pete
A bit of a mess really, announced for a February start, double daily at least Monday and Friday, finally starts in April but by mid-May it is single daily, evening only except Saturday which only allows connectivity to long-haul on that one day?
It is showing double daily in winter for Monday and Friday.
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SEN - DUB
With these new services recently added which have started from nothing, i cannot understand why AER LINGUS REGIONAL / STOBART AIR have not yet re-introduced the lucrative upto 3 times daily service they handed over to flyBE to decimate last October.
With a known market, after carrying 62000 pax last year, surely it makes economical sense to get this going again right away, more so with flyBE dropping LCY-DUB end May. One ATR is only needed for 3 return flights. flyBe are
doing 4 today with the same aircraft DUB-SEN on a one-off
Does anybody have a view or info on this.
With a known market, after carrying 62000 pax last year, surely it makes economical sense to get this going again right away, more so with flyBE dropping LCY-DUB end May. One ATR is only needed for 3 return flights. flyBe are
doing 4 today with the same aircraft DUB-SEN on a one-off
Does anybody have a view or info on this.
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If say given the lack of aircraft to operate Birmingham - shannon and the uncertainty of where the 500 is going there may still be more changes to comes for summer 15.
Either way it's greatvthey are developing!
Either way it's greatvthey are developing!
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I agree, the DUB schedule does make you wonder what EIR/STK are thinking! Not only do they seem to have thrown away any advantage they may have had over FR during the Summer months (onward connectivity to the States and day return options for business) with a reasonably timed double daily schedule; before their route has even been given time to get established they are now going to potentially dilute their loads, and for that matter those also at LBA, by starting a DSA route?
I understand the Winter schedule (if the service lasts that long) at the moment shows twice daily on T/W/T/F with single rotations on M/S/S, but the timings still do not allow for a full day's business, and ominously FR's Winter schedule is also back to twice daily!
Another strange aspect of their scheduling is that LBA, which is currently twice daily, reduces down to a single rotation for the Winter, the exact opposite to EMA?
Balair
I agree, the DUB schedule does make you wonder what EIR/STK are thinking! Not only do they seem to have thrown away any advantage they may have had over FR during the Summer months (onward connectivity to the States and day return options for business) with a reasonably timed double daily schedule; before their route has even been given time to get established they are now going to potentially dilute their loads, and for that matter those also at LBA, by starting a DSA route?
I understand the Winter schedule (if the service lasts that long) at the moment shows twice daily on T/W/T/F with single rotations on M/S/S, but the timings still do not allow for a full day's business, and ominously FR's Winter schedule is also back to twice daily!
Another strange aspect of their scheduling is that LBA, which is currently twice daily, reduces down to a single rotation for the Winter, the exact opposite to EMA?
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Thank you for pointing out that Monday in winter is single daily. It does seem to give the impression that they have had cold-feet re EMA and no doubt not helped by Ryanair going double daily since February this year for a couple of months and again next winter.
As you say it seems that double daily in summer would be the better option and make the most of Ryanair reducing their service to daily but I suppose aircraft availability is probably the reason.
A lot of the schedule does seem to be compromise and some of the timings seem less than idea but if your assets are stretched it must be difficult to please everyone all of the time.
Pete
Thank you for pointing out that Monday in winter is single daily. It does seem to give the impression that they have had cold-feet re EMA and no doubt not helped by Ryanair going double daily since February this year for a couple of months and again next winter.
As you say it seems that double daily in summer would be the better option and make the most of Ryanair reducing their service to daily but I suppose aircraft availability is probably the reason.
A lot of the schedule does seem to be compromise and some of the timings seem less than idea but if your assets are stretched it must be difficult to please everyone all of the time.
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looks like NQY-DUB will get another summer run for 2016, however the fares suggest its still under consideration as only stupidly high fares are available so far !
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There are rumours on the Newquay thread that since they have announced removal.of the £5 departure fee, Ryanair may be coming back to the airport. If so it seems reasonable to suggest Dublin and Stansted routes as they are main FR bases which could mean a loss of EIR on Dublin route and Flybe on STN route. I have no insider knowledge but just thought the other rumour thread was relevant to the above comment.
319s to SEN...
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EIR will have 2 additional A72-6 aircraft next summer, first arriving tonight.
As for 319s makes no sense and will have nothing to do with EIR, Clearly Stobart getting disparate to keep passengers passing through SEN, will fail like the current base.
As for 319s makes no sense and will have nothing to do with EIR, Clearly Stobart getting disparate to keep passengers passing through SEN, will fail like the current base.
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The only possible way STK could operate 319s out of SEN on regular pax flights would be if it was an EZY franchise, which would be unprecedented. There isn't really anywhere they could send them under a different brand that would have a big enough market or wouldn't step on EZY's shoes.
It could be a plan to get into ad-hoc charters of course, or more likely be a wild fantasy.
It could be a plan to get into ad-hoc charters of course, or more likely be a wild fantasy.
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Sounds most unlikely to me.
There are some routes from SEN which could succeed - Malta, Nice, Krakow, Budapest, Copenhagen could all be worth a go. But very unlikely.....
There are some routes from SEN which could succeed - Malta, Nice, Krakow, Budapest, Copenhagen could all be worth a go. But very unlikely.....
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If you want any credibility placed on your A319 story I think you need to provide a little more information. No disrespect intended to a first-time poster, in fact welcome to the forum, but others' disbelief is understandable. For my part I've heard nothing at all along those lines and I'm struggling to think of a Stobart scenario for their deployment at SEN, or anywhere for that matter.
If you want any credibility placed on your A319 story I think you need to provide a little more information. No disrespect intended to a first-time poster, in fact welcome to the forum, but others' disbelief is understandable. For my part I've heard nothing at all along those lines and I'm struggling to think of a Stobart scenario for their deployment at SEN, or anywhere for that matter.
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The only possible way STK could operate 319s out of SEN on regular pax flights would be if it was an EZY franchise
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I see new AT76 EI-FMJ has arrived into Dublin but in plain white. Think this has arrived on lease from ATR; any ideas as to what livery it will sport?
The fleet is rather stretched at the moment so it will be a welcome arrival.
The fleet is rather stretched at the moment so it will be a welcome arrival.
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Regional service Stobart Air plans sale
Sooner Stobart are out the better, bet profits would be higher if the mess as SEN was braught to an end.
Sooner Stobart are out the better, bet profits would be higher if the mess as SEN was braught to an end.