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Old 10th Feb 2014, 10:20
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The Eastern Saab 2000 at LCY is no franchise, but a straightforward lease by BA. So unlike in an franchise scenario, all commercial risks are with BA and nobody is paying BA for the use of its brand.
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Old 10th Feb 2014, 10:31
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Indeed I hope that Aer Arann get the partnership right, and I can't see it being BA when they operate from LCY.
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I don't think Aer Arann will have much choice to do this weather they want to or not, Stobart want it and they will be the ones that will screw it up as there is no way that any airline in London can compete with jet carriers on routes and for low cost flights.
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Old 10th Feb 2014, 15:17
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I disagree with you on your latter point.


There are a considerable number of routes into LON that are simply too thin to attract the LoCo majors' interest, yet that still have sufficient demand to support multiple weekly services employing ATR or similar aircraft. You have only to look at many of the LCY routes to realise that surely, but operators there have to be able to generate sufficient revenues to cover the high operating costs so their options remain limited.


I see no reason why half a dozen or more currently unserved routes to LON should not be profitable into somewhere like SEN. Whether or not this turns out to be what Aer Arann have in mind remains to be seen of course.

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Old 12th Feb 2014, 06:48
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There was a rumour that route announcements will take place when the refurbished terminal at SEN will be opened. When will the construction work be finished?
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 07:08
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The expanded terminal should be opening in mid-March.

The Airport's just got bigger (From Southend Standard)

Beware the ides of March......
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 11:23
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Potential routes without service (or service to cease shortly) with strong inbound potential and limited scope for LCCs due to relatively small markets).

Maastricht
Groningen
Munster
Paderborn
Saarbrucken
Erfurt
Dijon
Kristiansand
Esbjerg

I'm sure there are others, but certainly an announcement is apparently imminent on a new route to London from Munster.

One or two leisure routes for the UK market to Northern France I suspect may also appear such as Deauville
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 11:39
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I believe Caen is proposed.
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 13:52
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Reports on twitter than an 42 was knocked over on stand at SNN by wind earlier. Needless to say the airport has closed as has Cork, Kerry, Waterford.
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 14:36
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I think the kite involved is BYO (I couldn't tell well from the pic), the picture shows substantial damage done to the underneath. Write-off?

Someone tweeted it.

https://twitter.com/CathalKavanagh/s...898560/photo/1
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Old 12th Feb 2014, 14:42
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I think the kite involved is BYO (I couldn't tell well from the pic), the picture shows substantial damage done to the underneath. Write-off?

Someone tweeted it.
Spot-on its EI-BYO, looks to me as if the left main gear has collapsed and left wing has been damaged - Could also be prop damage! Aircraft should not have been parked nose in with gust winds above 50kts coming from the West.
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Old 13th Feb 2014, 10:39
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Sxflyer wrote
I'm sure there are others, but certainly an announcement is apparently imminent on a new route to London from Munster.

That´s interesting. What is the source of that information and when is the announcement? Will there be other routes to Germany, too?
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Old 13th Feb 2014, 16:42
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If Deauville can work from LCY, I don't see why the much larger city of Caen could not sustain a London route to/from SEN.


Looking at the CityJet website Deauville operates 2x weekly currently (with probably more frequencies during the summer period), but this is more focused on tourism whereas Caen (I assume) would be more focused on attracting business travellers as well as tourists.


We will wait and see on this one, it might not even happen...
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 08:04
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I'm sure there are others, but certainly an announcement is apparently imminent on a new route to London from Munster.
Yes, the announcement will be within the next two weeks, but so far it is not confirmed that this will be Aer Arann to SEN. We people from the Münster/Osnabrück area are currently dying to find out which airline will operate to London after the shutdown of Cityjet´s LCY route in March and apparently several airport workers do already know, but they won´t tell anybody as the airport has strictly instructed them to kepp quiet.
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 08:09
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sxflyer - what made you put Erfurt on the list ? I thought Germania fly 2x weekly to.Hatwick or has that been announced for closure ?
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 09:21
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My logic for suggesting Erfurt was based on its limited market and relatively isolated position to other competing airports, and being within a reasonable distance for an ATR. It was previously served daily by FR. I have to admit I had no idea there was the current service to LGW.
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Now that we're a few days on from the calamity involving EI-BYO at SNN, does anyone know what's going to happen to it? Seeing as it is one of the oldest aircraft (if not the oldest) in regular passenger service on the Irish Register, it would not surprise me to see it being written-off.
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Old 15th Feb 2014, 15:27
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EI BYO has an interesting history, having flown for FR and if not mistaken it was there last example in 1992, flying STN WAT GWY and possibly KIR?
At a time it operated ex IOM by FR for Manx Airlines!
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I have also seen an image on Flickr, the caption states that EI-CPT is stored (presumably out of service) at DUB. The titles have been removed from at least one side, one would like to know the master plan for RE 42s over the next couple years.

Here's a linky: EI-CPT ATR-42 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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They will hang on to them as long as possible, if they go and this is written off quiet likely it could undermine some operations and could lead to closure.


Remember SNN is a 42 base year round now with the 72 coming for summer, if that 42 is gone and replaced by a 72 how long will EIR keep up the extra costs when clearly a 42 size base is suitable particularly in winter.

The PSO's are up this year, will EIR go again for KIR, 42 operation, will a 72 cover the extra costs involved.

This 42 could have bad implications if scrapped.
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