BELFAST CITY AIRPORT (BHD)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Willie Walsh has said he remains committed to a route to/from LHR. It would appear that this means(in your minds) that the BMI route is secure
If BA do opt to continue the BMI link to Belfast, I just cant see why they would stay at BHD. Aer Lingus last August carried almost as many pax on BFS LHR as Bmi did on BHD LHR with lower frequencies. BFS can deliver the passenger numbers just as well as BHD, there are no limiting factors, such as size of aircraft, no restrictive hours to work around (which in the event of delays cost £££'s, ie late arrival charges, or diversion costs etc.).
My view has always been that BA are absolutely not interested in point to point traffic ex Belfast, or indeed from many regional markets, its too hard fought, their interest in almost exclusively feeding the hub at LHR with connecting passengers. Aer Lingus can do this for them and the slots can be used elsewhere for Long haul or new emerging routes that BA will want to fly.
The current capacity that EI have on LHR would only have to be increased slightly to ensure that the overall passenger numbers on Belfast LHR would be maintained.
EI-BUD
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Is passenger data like this not commercially sensitve ibformation??
However, some may argue that giving details prior to a flight could be a security issue.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: bangor
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you were on the flight you could count them, how could it be sensitive?
Though it is getting better as on a recent flight from AMS you could count them all on both hands.
EW, don't know if reporting pax numbers gets the thread closed down, but don't be reporting any operational facts or the PR will have shut down. This is a rumours network and facts and truth have no place here, unless it's about another airport, and negative.
Though it is getting better as on a recent flight from AMS you could count them all on both hands.
EW, don't know if reporting pax numbers gets the thread closed down, but don't be reporting any operational facts or the PR will have shut down. This is a rumours network and facts and truth have no place here, unless it's about another airport, and negative.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Newcastle NI
Posts: 824
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bmibaby tweak AMS rotations
I see from the baby website that Tuesday & Wednesday AMS is dropped from the end of March, although Tue June the 12 is available, some good loads of late at weekends.
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Belfast, UK
Age: 43
Posts: 896
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Will this facilitate the extra capacity recently announced on some sun routes, or was this AMS reduction planned and that's why Mahon was added later than the original sun destinations??
In addition to this, bmibaby will also increase frequencies on some of its most popular summer routes. Flights to Palma and Faro will now operate up to 3 times a week and flights to Alicante will operate up to 4 times a week
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: gate 67 JFK
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't think its anything to do with med routes, there wouldn't really be enough time, it will however give a bit more flexibility for the inevitable problems across the next work. The best you could squeeze in would be somewhere like JSY or NQY but the days are wrong and its probably to late to market them.
My bet is that when baby are sold Flybe will come off EMA BHD, I would like to see BHD LGW next if we could get LGW slots.
Summer route are i'm told selling well, BHD may have been a gamble but it seems to be paying off with lots of positive passanger feed back.
My bet is that when baby are sold Flybe will come off EMA BHD, I would like to see BHD LGW next if we could get LGW slots.
Summer route are i'm told selling well, BHD may have been a gamble but it seems to be paying off with lots of positive passanger feed back.
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would like to see BHD LGW next if we could get LGW slots.
From an operational point of view I don't see any improvements a service to LGW could make for the target audience baby were originally after? The time (using the express services) to London is almost exactly the same and the fares and frequency are very similar (depending on the actual day). Plus Stansted still has lower fees compared to LGW (ok this can vary depending on airline) and has less slot restrictions.
I hear the BHD-STN-BHD route is now performing much better thanks to tweaks with the schedule. Atleast they are letting it grow rather than chopping it and changing it like the old days. Hopefully as people become more aware of the route at both ends the frequency will be increased once again.
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: gate 67 JFK
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Cazza
In addition to STN, I think in the longer term if babyV2 is to grow it will need to go outside the Midlands, although there are plenty of growth opportunities in the Midlands especially BHX I think that they have to either go South or overseas,but to do that they need kit that has longer legs and a move to NG's would be less than ideal from BHD.
In addition to STN, I think in the longer term if babyV2 is to grow it will need to go outside the Midlands, although there are plenty of growth opportunities in the Midlands especially BHX I think that they have to either go South or overseas,but to do that they need kit that has longer legs and a move to NG's would be less than ideal from BHD.
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
but to do that they need kit that has longer legs and a move to NG's would be less than ideal from BHD.
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Belfast
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I see that bmi baby are advertising the AMS quite extensively in Holland, at a time when they have pulled a number of the midweek services. Would it not have been better to advertise the route, try to heighten the public awareness of the service in the NL, and if loads do not improve and remain low, then cut the frequency. To do both simultaneously is just stupid.
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
bmibaby Amsterdam
I see that bmi baby are advertising the AMS quite extensively in Holland, at a time when they have pulled a number of the midweek services. Would it not have been better to advertise the route, try to heighten the public awareness of the service in the NL, and if loads do not improve and remain low, then cut the frequency. To do both simultaneously is just stupid.
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Larne, UK
Posts: 990
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If bmi baby are offloaded prior to iag sale of bmi is the new owneres going to keep bhd asa base?
as for advertising, ive noticed its a constant battle of bmibaby and easyJet on coolFM, seems they are taking it in turns
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holywood
Age: 50
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The sun routes are doing well. AMS is 80 - 90 at weekends. GVA fine. Domestics doing well.New arrivals hall started. So a nice place to launch a new airline.