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Old 5th May 2012, 10:00
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Why not look further afield; Air Berlin have operated into the city before. Norweigan air shuttle are expanding aggressively. But I agree FR are the only ones in my eyes.
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First off sorry to the Baby staff everywhere and to those also being affected at BHD. Still have friends there and hope things turn up for them.

I've been regular traveller on the BHD-EMA routes with Ryanair and now Baby, still have some before the June 11th cancellations. FlyBe may be offering doubling their flights but have never been to offer the fares! The only companies I see BHD re-engaging with would be Air Berlin or Ryanair but would see this more as taking over when the winter schedule kicks inn.

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Old 5th May 2012, 11:48
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They could try monarch,wizz,transavia,germanwings,iberia express,veuling,lot?
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Old 5th May 2012, 15:22
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Think quite obvious what they are going to do offer the free landing to AerLingus and Jet2 the way they done with the others.Easy are not interested.
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Old 5th May 2012, 15:55
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I don't know......moving to BHD seems to impart the kiss of death. Let's be fair who HAS made a success of it ?

Air UK? Gone
Air Berlin? Gone
Ryanair? Gone
BMI/BMI Baby? Gone
Easyjet? Gone

I am sure there are others

To be fair though Manx2 has made a reasonable effort.....
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Old 5th May 2012, 16:09
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Old 5th May 2012, 16:41
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FlyBE operate to some European hotspots from Exeter and Southampton, maybe a chance these will be introduced from BHD. It would appear that BHD and BE have had a fairly long and generally stable relationship. Would management risk this (again) by luring back FR et al with substantial incentives??

The other carriers mentioned certainly could be an option from their respective countries to BHD, Germanwings, Air Berlin, Wizz, Norwegian, etc, but none of these carriers appear to offer Spanish destinations ex any UK airports.

Very sad news regarding the job looses at baby and mainline. Thoughts are with all affected.
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Old 5th May 2012, 17:29
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Aer lingus can't move due to the late arrivals of their aircraft, and jet2 are the same plus they have cargo at bfs. If BHD get a new airline in the next 7 days which I doubt it will be a new one to the market. But good luck to the management they have been left in a bad position with a half built intl arrivals hall
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Old 5th May 2012, 17:47
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BHD have egg on their faces and the first person to lose their job should be Mr Ambrose IMO.

Ryanair pullot
Easyjet pullout
Cancelled runway extension
Half built European arrivals hall

Disastrous.
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Old 5th May 2012, 18:38
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panpanpan +1

A rare voice of reason on this thread.
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Old 5th May 2012, 19:18
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They could try monarch,wizz,transavia,germanwings,iberia express,veuling,lot?
Likely hood of any of them operating into BHD is null. Belfast City's best bet I think is to work with Aer Lingus - example of timtable below:

A/C 1 - A320:

LHR-BHD 0630/0745 MTWTFSS
BHD-LHR 0825/0940 MTWTFSS

LHR-BHD 1030/1145 MTWTFSS
BHD-LHR 1220/1335 MTWTFSS

LHR-BHD 1425/1540 MTWTFSS
BHD-LHR 1620/1735 MTWTFSS

LHR-BHD 1830/1945 MTWTFSS
BHD-LHR 2025/2140 MTWTFSS

A/C 2 - A320:

BHD-LHR 0630/0800 MTWTF-S
LHR-BHD 0845/1000 MTWTF-S

BHD-GVA 0830/1140 -----S-
GVA-BHD 1220/1345 -----S-

BHD-AMS 1045/1320 M-W-F-S
AMS-BHD 1400/1440 M-W-F-S

BHD-AGP 1430/1835 -T-T-S-
AGP-BHD 1915/2125 -T-T-S-

BHD-BCN 1525/1900 M---F-S
BCN-BHD 1940/2130 M---F-S

BHD-GVA 1535/1845 --W----
GVA-BHD 1925/2050 --W----

A/C 3 - A320:

BHD-TFS 0700/1130 -T-T-S-
TFS-BHD 1220/1645 -T-T-S-

BHD-ACE 0715/1145 M-W-F-S
ACE-BHD 1230/1650 M-W-F-S

BHD-LHR 1735/1850 MTWTFSS
LHR-BHD 1945/2100 MTWTFSS

Summary:
Amsterdam | Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays
Barcelona | Mondays, Fridays, Sundays
Geneva | Wednesdays, Saturdays
Lanzarote | Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays
London Heathrow | Six Daily (ex Saturdays)
Malaga | Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays
Tenerife-South | Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays

All this resting on Aer Lingus getting near enough those slots at London Heathrow which would be difficult to say the least. Also the Geneva flights could be say Alicante or Faro up until December as the Ski Season comes online.
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Old 5th May 2012, 19:55
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Blimey, a lot of time on our hands have we Jack? I dont see how Tenerife would work out of BHD to be honest. Stick to closer European hubs of mixed business and leisure pax
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Old 5th May 2012, 19:57
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Reported on a Cabin Crew website that FR to retrun to BHO with a base. Anyone any info?
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Old 5th May 2012, 20:06
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Blimey, a lot of time on our hands have we Jack?
Haha find scheduling easy being honest
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Old 5th May 2012, 20:44
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Can't see FR starting a base from Raja Bhoj Airport (BHO) if I'm honest! I also don't see them returning to BHD for the simple fact of the runway. FR left because they couldn't get the extension they wanted therefore had to run with load restrictions, are they willing to go back to that again? As far as I see nothing has changed at Harbour international?

As I also stated on the LDY I think FR should be focusing on Derry as there main NI Airport for the minute with the City of Culture year etc.
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Old 5th May 2012, 20:55
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I wouldn't be quick to rule FR out. Initially when they started flights they were restricted to 156pax but after a while this increased to 186. Yes performance wise the bigger runway would be useful but for the routes they operated to mainland UK it worked. During the period they operated the loads on the flights increased to good levels with exception of prestwick.

Now yes if the runway was extended great they would operate sun routes etc but now just throwing an idea out there, would perhaps the runway extension issues be a great excuse to blame/use when initial airport deals run out?

Only a suggestion/idea.

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Old 5th May 2012, 22:10
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The FR engine 'derate' was supposedly nothing more than a paperwork exercise...with a minor modification in the engine control system. I think it's a case of a selectable plug setting somewhere. So removing the derate is easily achieveable. No doubt, with FR, there is a cost implication somewhere though.
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Old 6th May 2012, 03:42
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It is £30,000 per engine according the my friend who is a pilot for RYR.
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Old 6th May 2012, 07:56
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I see alot of the blame for RYR pulling out of BHD was the delay in the runway extension.Lets be honest RYR 3 year deal was over so MOL was going to have to pay,so away he goes somewhere else for free.So now a window of opportunity, another free 3 year deal.
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Old 6th May 2012, 11:10
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Straightahead

Exactly what my opinion over the whole FR leaving BHD was and still is to this day. If the runway was extended at the time great but it also allowed and excuse to pull out of BHD after the initial basing deal was up for renegotiation.

As for BMI mainline I'm dubious of Willie Walsh's comments to keep the heathrow link, I've no doubt we will still have the LHR route but that it will be Aer Lingus from BFS. No need "wasting" capacity/slots when your alliance partner flies from BFS. Transfer over pair of slots, EI increase daily flight to LHR others allow BA to increase their important long haul portfolio.


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