Astraeus are no more?
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As hotac are mostly reserved in airine's name, crews can check out without being held liable.
If bills are settled by crews rather on account crew would be wise not to settle accommodation bills except personal bills. They will never get the monies back from administrator if they use personal monies for hotac. In most cases like this arrangement is made before hand with captain on positioning or parking of aircraft and that should include repatriation of all crews.
What happened to the crews who were downroute when the airline ceased operations? Did the administrator pay the hotel bills so the crews could check out - what about repatriation flights?
As hotac are mostly reserved in airine's name, crews can check out without being held liable.
If bills are settled by crews rather on account crew would be wise not to settle accommodation bills except personal bills. They will never get the monies back from administrator if they use personal monies for hotac. In most cases like this arrangement is made before hand with captain on positioning or parking of aircraft and that should include repatriation of all crews.
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I understand the few aeroplanes on turnarounds were grounded and the crews brought direct back to base by EJ. Not sure what arrangements were made for their effects, but the company credit card was still valid. There appears to have been a pretty seamless (and secret!) transfer of operations to CSA Holidays flying A320s via temporary use of Jet Time of Denmark. Further ramifications now are: the ground handling agents/ops/pax staff/engineering at KEF have all been laid off permanently after achieving 6 months in the job following the disastrous overnight decision to change handlers at KEF for 1 June (by the director who ended up in dispute with Fengur after being dismissed, and who is now starting a new airline called 'Wow' with Canadians now- as the new owner reported: 'Wow' upside down is 'Mom', giving you a nice warm cuddly feeling, and I think he added 'wrapping round you keeping you warm' or something like that, but I was feeling rather ill at that stage and couldn't really absorb it.). Also, a significant number of KEF based Astraeus pilots, both British and Icelandic, have also been seen off. I'm not sure the IEX cabin crew status- they had already lost temporary summer staff, and the new operation is smaller, so I would guess more have gone.
It's not a good record- 4 airlines sent to the chopping block by this company, and another patsy being lined up. IEX will have to contend with Norwegian, WOW or MOM or whatever it is, and EJ on the routes as well now. The (ex) staff are bewildered- the whole caboodle dumped in the bin on a demand for more cash, worldwide AOC which is supposed to be worth something, forthcoming contracts in the Far East (2) and Africa which some say were still possibly on. And talk of a takeover bid fended off in September. I gather the public relations of IEX in Iceland are now dire. One wishes them better luck (than we had!)- unlike some in this thread, one does not want to see enterprises flounder and good, hard working people, doing their best, thrown out.
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It's not a good record- 4 airlines sent to the chopping block by this company, and another patsy being lined up. IEX will have to contend with Norwegian, WOW or MOM or whatever it is, and EJ on the routes as well now. The (ex) staff are bewildered- the whole caboodle dumped in the bin on a demand for more cash, worldwide AOC which is supposed to be worth something, forthcoming contracts in the Far East (2) and Africa which some say were still possibly on. And talk of a takeover bid fended off in September. I gather the public relations of IEX in Iceland are now dire. One wishes them better luck (than we had!)- unlike some in this thread, one does not want to see enterprises flounder and good, hard working people, doing their best, thrown out.
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Just heard a certain Swiss based company is refusing to honor the contracts for pilots they employed and sub-contracted to Astraeus. Whats the point of a contract. Surely there are provisions to deal with situations like this. Aviation circle is small and people dont forget to easily.Do the right thing and honor the contracts! Pay these poor guys.
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I would imagine such contracts read, to the effect, "If we don't get paid then you don't get paid" and whilst life can be tough, if correct, that certain Swiss based company would be honoring the T&C's of contract(s) by not paying ... after all ... they're already out of pocket having not been paid also.
I would imagine such contracts read, to the effect, "If we don't get paid then you don't get paid" and whilst life can be tough, if correct, that certain Swiss based company would be honoring the T&C's of contract(s) by not paying ... after all ... they're already out of pocket having not been paid also.
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I think there is a chap who lives in Iceland you might need to talk to. The truth is, no one has been paid, not lessors, cab companies, training providers and maintenance companies.....or pilots and staff, whether permanent or contracted.
Its unlikely anyone will be is the sad truth.
Its unlikely anyone will be is the sad truth.
<<Just heard a certain Swiss based company....>>
When I was considering this same company for a contract they assured me that they always required salaries in advance from the airline so that they could guarantee their crews' salaries.
When I was considering this same company for a contract they assured me that they always required salaries in advance from the airline so that they could guarantee their crews' salaries.
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My understanding is that the contract company themselves have not been paid. Just about everyone is a month in arrears, permanent folk as well. Notice period is a forlorm pipe dream I fear. Although its a lot of money, it pales in comparison to the other creditors, who will be at the front of the queue for the scraps.
Big piece in the Danish papers about pax left in the lurch by the cancellation of New York services. Astraeus (owned by ICEX owner and front for his ticket sales) is liable under EU law I believe.
Being bust is very unfortunate for those poor folk who booked in good faith.
One or two journos are starting to dig deeper. One hopes they continue to do so.
Mr Palmi Haraldsson has a complex set of business arrangements to say the least.
Big piece in the Danish papers about pax left in the lurch by the cancellation of New York services. Astraeus (owned by ICEX owner and front for his ticket sales) is liable under EU law I believe.
Being bust is very unfortunate for those poor folk who booked in good faith.
One or two journos are starting to dig deeper. One hopes they continue to do so.
Mr Palmi Haraldsson has a complex set of business arrangements to say the least.
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yep, sitting up here in my little apartment in KEF. Not sure what happens next. First time I've been unemployed since I was 17. Now, like hundreds of others, I'm out pushing my CV around. Best of luck to all my former colleagues. This isn't the way we wanted it all to end...very sad.
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Astraeus: first commercial flight 6 April 2002 LGW-AGP with already 'work commitments' from 22 tour operators. Led by Hugh parry and funded by Aberdeen asset management.
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A chap in Iceland...
for Aztruck and Boac:
I think there is a chap who lives in Iceland you might need to talk to. The truth is, no one has been paid, not lessors, cab companies, training providers and maintenance companies.....or pilots and staff, whether permanent or contracted.
Its unlikely anyone will be is the sad truth.
Actually Mr Palmi Haraldsson lives in London, however his legal residence is in tax-heavenish
Luxembourg, luckily he is seldom seen here in Iceland, Gott sei Dank !!
I think there is a chap who lives in Iceland you might need to talk to. The truth is, no one has been paid, not lessors, cab companies, training providers and maintenance companies.....or pilots and staff, whether permanent or contracted.
Its unlikely anyone will be is the sad truth.
Actually Mr Palmi Haraldsson lives in London, however his legal residence is in tax-heavenish
Luxembourg, luckily he is seldom seen here in Iceland, Gott sei Dank !!
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R.I.P Astarueas
Thanks Hamrah for the "once I a lifetime break".
I probably speak for the other 3 pprune cadets when I say they were halcyon days never forgotten.
All the best.
Thanks Hamrah for the "once I a lifetime break".
I probably speak for the other 3 pprune cadets when I say they were halcyon days never forgotten.
All the best.
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Bruce Dickinson, the lead singer of Iron Maiden, will speak at the Advantage conference in what will be his first address to a UK travel audience.
Drawing on his experience as a rock star, a commercial airline pilot and past marketing director at Astraeus Airlines, Dickinson will talk about change management and the need to be agile and flexible in business.
He was previously a pilot and marketing director for Astraeus Airlines which recently went into administration but which he is now in the process of leading out of liquidation.
Drawing on his experience as a rock star, a commercial airline pilot and past marketing director at Astraeus Airlines, Dickinson will talk about change management and the need to be agile and flexible in business.
He was previously a pilot and marketing director for Astraeus Airlines which recently went into administration but which he is now in the process of leading out of liquidation.
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From the "weekly joiners" lists that our company publishes, I have seen that there are at least 4
from the 737 fleet that are coming to Jet2. (Some employed, some on contract).
They will be made most welcome. It is the nature and culture of the company.
(Somewhat biased I know)
from the 737 fleet that are coming to Jet2. (Some employed, some on contract).
They will be made most welcome. It is the nature and culture of the company.
(Somewhat biased I know)