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Old 12th Jul 2014, 17:51
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Appreciate that, but Little Red is not tied to EI for new routes...also, would EI turn down a guaranteed contract? AFAIK, VS take the commercial risk on Little Red routes...EI get a contractual income for running them...
Are you seriously suggesting EI would contract out one of their aircraft to compete against their own mainline operations? What sort of common business sense would that be?
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Old 12th Jul 2014, 18:58
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Are you seriously suggesting EI would contract out one of their aircraft to compete against their own mainline operations? What sort of common business sense would that be?
Why not? If there is additional demand in the market (the loss of FlyBe and rise in prices suggest there is), and VS are willing to take the commercial risk, then it could be easy money...EI returns on their own routes might take some impact, but the sum total could be positive.
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Old 12th Jul 2014, 22:15
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BFS management have said they are working very hard to get a direct link back to LHR so could be plausible. And if EI are making more money on the LGW route now they could possibly drop LHR and increase LGW frequency, either way EI always win
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Old 12th Jul 2014, 23:06
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Could EI and VS not codeshare on BHD - LHR? The relationship is there, and EI do codeshare with BA who they also compete with.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 12:27
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MCO v EWR

BIAL must ensure that any route development does not jeopardise the EWR operation

A regular, ideally daily flight to the NY area is essential to maintaining economic ties with USA.
Recent inward investment announcements have been encouraging with real growth in jobs and more to come.
To endanger this for short term gains would be a disaster for BIA and the local economy.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 12:32
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I think the Newark route is already in trouble. With the announcement that UA are pulling the service for nine weeks in the New Year, they must think they can use that 757 more profitably elsewhere during that period. The BFS - EWR route carries good loads, but maybe somewhere else would cost less and create more profit.

I hope it stays, as is is great to have that direct link. But I could see it dropping down from daily...or even being dropped altogether in favour of a stronger UA DUB - EWR offering.

Saying all that, if VS do arrive, maybe they would offer JFK / EWR two or three times weekly...
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 12:38
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VS would not need to touch a BFS LHR route. They simply could use EI for code share etc. there interest in such a market would be to feed long haul pax into the VS network.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 13:26
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VS will operate 4 flights BFS MCO in summer 2015, Starts 25JUN - 16JUL and inbound 02JUL TO 23JUL with 747 equip.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 13:49
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Where did you hear this?? Any weblinks??
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 14:17
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If its true why could they not do it weekly all summer using A330 they would have got a lot of people interested in it.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 14:23
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At a guess:
NI is a small catchment area
MCO is a school kid heavy route - the flights are over the school holidays.
Mums and dads taking their precious over to see Mickey and friends over the school break. No other demand.
Probably that simple.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 19:29
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The provisional caa stats for June have been published.

Passenger numbers up 5.2% from June 13.

Whilst the EWR was down 1%, UA carried more on the BFS route than GLA, MAN and BHX in June. 9617 passengers carried.
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 08:50
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Virgin Atlantic comes to Belfast!!

It will be good to see the 747 back in the Belfast skyline!!!

Virgin launches Belfast air service - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 09:11
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Lets see how many airports have a daily flight to Florida in the summer:

LHR
LGW
MAN

If you meant weekly I can understand, but I very much doubt Virgin could fill a 455 seat 744 and make money if they operated all summer.
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 12:23
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Wonder when its bookable?
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 12:47
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If you meant weekly I can understand, but I very much doubt Virgin could fill a 455 seat 744 and make money if they operated all summer.
Exactly. Seems to me more of 8 peak summer rotations replacing Thomas Cook than a new route, although I'm sure spotters will love it. Anyhow any news is good news.
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 13:33
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BFS / MCO

Good news indeed but I feel that marketing do not understand the value of the grey pound

I would have thought that a weekly winter operation with an A340/330 would be profitable given the disproportionate number of retired people living here.
A large number of "OAPs" use DUB every year to escape to the winter sun so why not a BFS snowbird special!
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 15:15
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Sorry but I think its bull that there isn't a summer market. I am in Florida now and have been here three weeks. I have seen 4 people from my town on four seperate occasions and not in Orlando either. In that time I have ran into other people from Northern Ireland countless time,funnily enough i've seen about 2 people from the republic but anyway.

I think maybe if they changed the aircraft type to one with less seats it would help. Don't think it could work in winter though.

They really need to start advertising now.
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 15:19
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How can it be replacing Thomas Cook when it has 8 different flights?
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Old 16th Jul 2014, 15:23
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the 2 new Virgin Holidays stores have not long opened in NI and i believe the new flight goes on sale 1st August
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