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Old 23rd May 2015, 08:56
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I wouldnt be expecting a huge second hand market suddenly from operators max to NG switch that will take 5 years + to be in that scenario imo
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Old 23rd May 2015, 08:57
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Nope its not bigger than a 733 its longer, from a customer point of view nothing changes apart from a longer queue to check in or to collect your luggage, bigger aircraft 'statement' implies err well a bigger aircraft.
So longer isn't bigger? Based on this logic a 757 isn't bigger than a 737 then? Where's my physics' textbook - somebody's re-written the rules...

In the context used, a bigger aircraft means more seats
meaning THOUSANDS more opportunities to jet away to popular hotspots
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Old 23rd May 2015, 09:05
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A 738 is also taller and wider than a 733, so if longer taller and wider isn't bigger, what is???
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Old 23rd May 2015, 09:17
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Taller? wider? the cabin cross section is identical in the 737-200 to 900 /757 / 707/ 727. From a passengers point of view the cabin is the same on all of these types, only difference is the length.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 09:22
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
I wouldnt be expecting a huge second hand market suddenly from operators max to NG switch that will take 5 years + to be in that scenario imo
As you say not huge but already starting. As more and more NGs come onto the market being replaced by newer NGs MAXs and NEOs then the opportunity to pick up decent used NGs at a good price will present itself. This is something Jet2 have been good at recently.
l would rather they do that and stick with their current, working, business plan than buy/lease new. Owning older properly maintained aircraft with refreshed interiors and plenty of backup seems to work for them.If they do go new then I hope they don't go full fleet and keep the new/leased ac flying year round on the core winter routes.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 09:44
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bluepilot,

Isn't the tail taller and the wingspan wider?
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Originally Posted by HOODED
As you say not huge but already starting. As more and more NGs come onto the market being replaced by newer NGs MAXs and NEOs then the opportunity to pick up decent used NGs at a good price will present itself. This is something Jet2 have been good at recently.
l would rather they do that and stick with their current, working, business plan than buy/lease new. Owning older properly maintained aircraft with refreshed interiors and plenty of backup seems to work for them.If they do go new then I hope they don't go full fleet and keep the new/leased ac flying year round on the core winter routes.
Totally agree with HOODED - I too think the best way for Jet2 to expand is to keep on doing as they do now, with older, well maintained aircraft, with refreshed interiors, and plenty of backup.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 16:25
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As far as I know passengers are carried inside, not on the roof or wings, so being wider or taller makes no difference to the passenger experience except if the have to evacuate !!!

My comments were intended to be tongue in cheek, but most passenger would not be aware of whether they were sat in(on) a CL or NG I was simply saying that announcing that you are putting bigger aircraft on a route to most passengers that they would expect a larger aircraft not a LWB version.

They never say it's a smaller aircraft if the switch to a 300

The 757 is a completely different aircraft to the 737 and would be seen to bigger, but yes 3/3 seating just the same, let's move on.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 18:44
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It would be interesting to have a 100 series parked next to a 900
then you would see the difference
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Old 26th May 2015, 08:46
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flew back to MAN on GDFM yesterday from Venice.

On time again and 95% full. Service excellent on board.
Check in at Marco polo was a joke with one desk open for each of the 3 flights.
We waiting until check in opened 90 mins before flight !! and then with one desk it was slow.
Will be sending e mail to them today.
Aircraft side and crew both good.
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Old 26th May 2015, 09:32
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Castleford, it's just a shame the ground handlers let you down. If you checked the status page, Status | Jet2.com, over the weekend and Monday, Ground Handlers/Agents at VCE were going on strike - this might explain your bad experience at check in (only 90mins before).
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EXS51/LS51 (G-LSAA) seemed to be circling Newcastle today before landing from Manchester.

Took off, went out over Seaton, out over North Sea then back in to Newcastle.

Sent in as spare plane or test flight?

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I notice jet 2 have decided to use privilege aircraft again this year...that should boost on time departure figures no end .....lol
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Old 28th May 2015, 16:37
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Originally Posted by nonfrequentflyer_NCL
EXS51/LS51 (G-LSAA) seemed to be circling Newcastle today before landing from Manchester.

Took off, went out over Seaton, out over North Sea then back in to Newcastle.

Sent in as spare plane or test flight?
Test flight , flew over Newcastle the other day out to the north sea then flew back over at 14,000 ft back to MAN , Seems all its done the last week is test flights from MAN to MAN or EMA/NCL
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I notice jet 2 have decided to use privilege aircraft again this year
Jet2 have had Privilege Style 757-200 EC-ISY since the start of the month. However, EC-ISY appears to have gone tech in MAN, as EC-HDS was drafted in this morning to take the LS891 service from MAN. Good Old Privilege Style...

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We have 2 positioning flights tonight:

G-CELS 733 - Based ALC, returning from PMI to ALC.

G-LSAN 752WL - Based MAN, Positioning GLA, reason unknown.

Anyone any ideas on G-LSAN positioning to GLA?

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Old 28th May 2015, 19:41
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This little snippet appeared in the Evening Standard a few weeks back, any opinions on what it means or where it might lead?


Market Report: Shares tumble as record highs give way to nerves before US Fed meeting - Analysis & Features - Business - London Evening Standard


Shares of Dart Group, owner of the Jet2 airline and package tours group, have been soaring in the past few months. Brokers are whispering that a new shareholder might be the cause. Especially as it’s Richard Bernstein’s activist group Crystal Amber.
The question is, what has Bernstein, currently laying siege to Pinewood Studios’ Michael Grade, got up his sleeve for Dart? Some in the market are talking of a potential spin-off of Dart’s haulage business. But that’s probably wide of the mark.
Punters in Jet2’s northern heartlands are about to start getting flusher and when compared with the likes of easyJet, Dart’s accounting policies are cautious in the extreme: in other words, it’s got more cash in it than the market had cottoned on to.
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Old 28th May 2015, 21:23
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G-LSAN

G-LSAN is positioning into MAN from TFS in the morning. Not sure how she got there from GLA though! Seems odd, but the company is now acting tactically to avoid EU261 claims at all costs, so maybe they operated a rescue flight on AN to TFS but used a different a/c to rescue the inbound PAX to avoid claims. EU261 is now a MASSIVE issue for EXS after recent rulings.
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Old 28th May 2015, 21:49
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Test flight , flew over Newcastle the other day out to the north sea then flew back over at 14,000 ft back to MAN , Seems all its done the last week is test flights from MAN to MAN or EMA/NCL
Has had major engineering work done, so having a thorough beat up prior to return to service.
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Old 28th May 2015, 23:30
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G-LSAN is currently en route as LS155 from GLA to TFS. Unsure as to why/what a/c has gone tech, and why it has been left so long. The service is due into TFS approx 5 hours late.

Earlier, I noticed that ALC based airspare, G-GDFO was en route to TFS as EXS048A, to pick up the return flight as LS156. The Spanish base strategy has immensely reduced delays, by at least 3-4 hours on the LS156 sector tonight, and is due into GLA about 1.5 hours late. As you said, EU261...
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Old 29th May 2015, 05:27
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Been a few 757s covering 738s , G-LSAH Done a 5 hour late NCL-TFS few days ago , Would of thought there would be a 737 lying around quicker than a 757 ?
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