Jet2 4
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
fa2fi
You obviously don`t know but Monarch operated, for many years, the 757 on their routes to GIB..They only changed when the A320 came into service and the 757`s went onto charter..Used them year round in fact and often full loads
You obviously don`t know but Monarch operated, for many years, the 757 on their routes to GIB..They only changed when the A320 came into service and the 757`s went onto charter..Used them year round in fact and often full loads
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 39
Posts: 700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wait. Is this the same Gibraltar that Jet2 don't even fly to???
Your GIB example is completely pointless. LS have 757s, they don't fly them to GIB on a regular scheduled basis.
Your GIB example is completely pointless. LS have 757s, they don't fly them to GIB on a regular scheduled basis.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Wherever Crewing send me
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A321 Vs B757
The A321neoLR (Long Range) appears to be able to carry a similar number of passengers and fly a similar maximum range as the B757-200
Agree on the fuel burn though.
Back to J2...
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Midlands, UK
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Basil is spot on! If JP have bought 15 new aircraft with associated leases, fingers crossed they have changed their seasonal nature...
Big employer for it to end in tears....
Big employer for it to end in tears....
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Buying new aircraft will clash with every form of business they've done over the past 13 years, it wouldn't make sense in any way, I will eat my hat if these rumours are true.
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: EU
Age: 54
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Data would indicate that of the 57 airframes in the fleet only 11 are leased. Inevitably these leases would be cheaper than usual as they were for second hand aircraft. The new order of aircraft may well be bought outright by JET2, as previously someone mentioned that a deal with Bank of America to finance the purchase had been negotiated. This would make sense as interest rates are low and it would be an important saving on a regular leasing arrangement. This doesn’t solve the low winter usage of aircraft but it does go some way to mitigate the issue.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Wherever Crewing send me
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The 757 is pointless for Airlines like Jet2 now
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
757 = Fantastic aircraft thats served them well but they will have to let it go sooner or later
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jet2 Publicly Announce New Routes from Edinburgh for S16
Biggest EVER Expansion for Jet2.com and Jet2holidays | Jet2.com
Today, 1 week after the first news, Jet2 have publicly announced their Biggest EVER expansion programme. The report outlines that only 1 737-800 will be based up there (bringing the total number of aircraft based to 5) - and a busy 738 it will be! The report also outlines that 500,000 seats are on sale for S16, bringing an additional 150,000 passengers through EDI's doors - an increase of 55%. This brings the total available routes Jet2 offer from Edinburgh to 26. It says that over 150 new jobs will be created at the Scottish hub, and that this is the biggest expansion Edinburgh Airport has ever seen since it became a private company.
A Quote taken from EDI's CEO:
"Excitingly we’ll see the introduction of the first service between Edinburgh and Vienna which is a particularly important destination for us to serve. Not only will it offer leisure travellers great choice for city breaks, it opens up further trade and business links between Scotland and this major European hub."
Today, 1 week after the first news, Jet2 have publicly announced their Biggest EVER expansion programme. The report outlines that only 1 737-800 will be based up there (bringing the total number of aircraft based to 5) - and a busy 738 it will be! The report also outlines that 500,000 seats are on sale for S16, bringing an additional 150,000 passengers through EDI's doors - an increase of 55%. This brings the total available routes Jet2 offer from Edinburgh to 26. It says that over 150 new jobs will be created at the Scottish hub, and that this is the biggest expansion Edinburgh Airport has ever seen since it became a private company.
A Quote taken from EDI's CEO:
"Excitingly we’ll see the introduction of the first service between Edinburgh and Vienna which is a particularly important destination for us to serve. Not only will it offer leisure travellers great choice for city breaks, it opens up further trade and business links between Scotland and this major European hub."
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Newcastle NI
Posts: 824
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
New EDI routes
Looks very much like Jet2Holidays driving the route selection, nothing wrong with that, but further cements the seasonal nature of Jet2 business going forward which flies in the face of a new leased fleet order.
Jet2 are not in any sense of the word a transatlantic operator, a few dozen mainly Xmas New York flights can not add much to the bottom line, the 757 is a truly excellent aircraft and nothing on the market including the A321 comes close, having said that 90% + of what you might want to do can be done be with the 321/738 and its already been pointed out that the 757 will be phased out at some stage.
The spot light will be on Jet2's reliability this summer, they work crews and aircraft very hard in Summer
Jet2 are not in any sense of the word a transatlantic operator, a few dozen mainly Xmas New York flights can not add much to the bottom line, the 757 is a truly excellent aircraft and nothing on the market including the A321 comes close, having said that 90% + of what you might want to do can be done be with the 321/738 and its already been pointed out that the 757 will be phased out at some stage.
The spot light will be on Jet2's reliability this summer, they work crews and aircraft very hard in Summer
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: far too low
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The 800s can do the transatlantic stuff
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The spot light will be on Jet2's reliability this summer, they work crews and aircraft very hard in Summer
The 757 is unique, as is Jet2's winter breaks to New York. The airline was the first, and still the only Low Cost airline to travel Transatlantic from the North. As much as I understand the 757's will go sooner or later, there's still some life in them yet. If Jet2 were to buy some young 757's, (10-15 year old) they'd get another 15 or so years out of the beautiful bird, until a viable replacement, in the form of a 757MAX (though highly unlikely), were to be manufactured.
Realistically, the most logical replacement (though there will never be a true one) would be the 767;
- It is still in production
- It shares a common TR with the 757
- It can fly a varied range of missons, from seasonal New York, to 'packed to the rafters' bucket and spade flights
- Is common with the rest of the fleet
As the 757 and 767 were manufactured in unison, it means that transition between the two aircraft would be seamless. It means little retraining for crews and engineers, as opposed to lots of expensive retraining on a new type. As mentioned, the 767 can do the vast majority of what the 757 can do, and more. It would give for greater capacity on the 'bucket and spades', as well as greater flexibility for Jet2 operations. Maybe a 2-3 aircraft order would be suitable to start with. The aircraft, would be very busy in the summer, but not so in the winter. However, because of their wide range of missions, the 767's could be chartered during the winter for many airlines, and in turn, this would cover the costs of being parked up on the ground. If, in the event no new aircraft order is made, maybe a few second hand 767's bought outright would suit the business model of Jet2 a little better.
Traditionally, LCC's do not operate a mixed fleet, mainly due to it costing more than a common fleet does. It then begs the question: Are Jet2 not negotiating a deal with Airbus, in order to drive a better deal with Boeing?...
...Time will tell...
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: EU
Age: 54
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Back in 2009 JET2 were recruiting B767 type rated pilots and since then the rumours of a Long Haul programme with appropriate aircraft have been doing the rounds and nothing has come of it. There would appear to be no plans in the near future to launch a long haul programme nor acquiring aircraft to do it.
The possible acquisition of new aircraft would appear to be a near on certain possibility but they will be for JET2’s present flying programme. As it is common knowledge that the airplane manufacturers offer discounts of around 50% on any sizeable order, it would suggest that JET2 will be buying the aircraft rather than leasing. After all if they can negotiate a 50% discount on the aircraft order, why then would they want to lease the aircraft and give the advantage of the discount to the leasing company in extra profits? Surely it would be much better for JET2 to buy the aircraft outright with a bank loan at a low interest. This would also serve to compensate the quiet winter flying and avoid crippling high leasing costs.
The possible acquisition of new aircraft would appear to be a near on certain possibility but they will be for JET2’s present flying programme. As it is common knowledge that the airplane manufacturers offer discounts of around 50% on any sizeable order, it would suggest that JET2 will be buying the aircraft rather than leasing. After all if they can negotiate a 50% discount on the aircraft order, why then would they want to lease the aircraft and give the advantage of the discount to the leasing company in extra profits? Surely it would be much better for JET2 to buy the aircraft outright with a bank loan at a low interest. This would also serve to compensate the quiet winter flying and avoid crippling high leasing costs.