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Old 24th Jul 2015, 09:34
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What started out as a nice little flying job as turned into dare I say it a " poisoned Chalice ". Pilots that have been with Jet2 the neck end of 10 years are starting to leave and many more are seriously thinking of doing so. If you set aside the issues of older aircraft, slave ship rosters on the 737, middle management who have taken their eye off the ball..etc..we are still almost 2k per month less ( net ) in the pocket department from FR, EZ. As other posts suggest, it's only a matter of time before the experience levels start to become a concern in both seats. They need to start paying what people are really worth..increments would be a good starting point
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 12:12
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Cool

Increments (in the amount of pilots leaving)!!! Big chance
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 13:03
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They need to start paying what people are really worth.
Why ... what's so special about pilots. There will always be people willing to work for less than you ... and experience has no value ... that's life unfortunately.
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 17:31
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Experience should and does have a value. The problem that is the public perception of pilots is the glam and the highly salary which is these days far from correct. I would say however that pilots are also very clever and they should know that at Jet 2 it's work work work in summer and relax in winter and moan of loads of standby and
no flying - you don't hear this on web sites though. Loosing crews is nothing new, opportunity for Command and new entrant first officers. More happy ness and salaries are less.
Will the Company react and try fix - only time will tell
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 20:58
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They are getting in quite a mess. Today 3 hour + delays due crew shortages leaving them at the mercy of big eu261 claims? Take a look at the arrivals and departures board.

On the back of the drag curve with pilot numbers? No longer a matter of simply replacing the leavers, but needing to think and anticipate those that are likely to leave. Still they persist with unattractive 50 and 70% deals like hagglers at a boot sale with little understanding of a changing job market.

Intensive in house type training in the peak season? Maybe a bad idea when it pulls valuable resources from front line flying.

Large fleets of older aircraft. Maybe not such great value for money when spending large sums recovering casualty aircraft, chartering short notice stand in cover and propping up the operation with king airs and biz jets shipping crew and engineers about.
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 21:34
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They are getting in quite a mess. Today 3 hour + delays due crew shortages leaving them at the mercy of big eu261 claims?
Are you sure? If so please indicate the airport. The only 'lengthy' delay registered for 24 July was a flight from LBA which was 62 minutes late departing.
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 21:42
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The 922 and 921 ex Man. I can only presumbe all standby and spare crew cover has been exhausted?
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 21:42
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Originally Posted by taxi_driver View Post
They are getting in quite a mess. Today 3 hour + delays due crew shortages leaving them at the mercy of big eu261 claims? Take a look at the arrivals and departures board.
Not quite sure where you get your information from. One delay down to a leased aircraft going tech, swapping onto a company spare. The other down to technical issues down route with pax recovered by spare aircraft from ALC and the UK.

Nothing to do with crew shortages.
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 21:58
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A 4 hr delay, at the biggest base, which normally has full airport standby cover? Surely shows a shortage of some sort?
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 22:31
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A 4 hr delay, at the biggest base, which normally has full airport standby cover? Surely shows a shortage of some sort?.
The LS921/2 was scheduled to be operated by -ISY, leased from Privilege but instead was operated by -LSAH, due to the aircraft going tech, like Flying Wild said. Hardly surprising given -ISY's recent form - only came back into service on Sunday after going tech, again...
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 23:18
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I saw an interesting comment in a Midlands paper today Jet2 say pax numbers are up 44% this year at EMA and early booking figures for 2016 suggest up 25% on this time last year for the following summer. So looks like some good growth in that market
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 20:19
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Today's delays

In fairness today there were delays across the board in various airlines due to Spanish strike action. Don't think that's due to crewing levels
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 17:27
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Slot delays in peak summer are a fact of life for all operators. My gut feeling is that manning levels are under severe strain right now at jet2. To take a 4-5 hr delay at a main base with an operator that supposedly keeps 4 aircraft + crew on airport standby indicates a severe shortage of some sort?

I have no dog in the race, other than alot of ex colleagues who earn a living there. I only hope that management there grasp the severity of the problem in time.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 22:06
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Seen a 757 climbing out of Malaga today heading for Alicante, what would that have been for?
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Old 1st Aug 2015, 22:02
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Anyone know why it took so long to position AH from LBA into MAN tonight to operate EXS781?
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Old 9th Aug 2015, 18:21
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Flew in to NCL last night on G-GDFO from Pisa (yep, was on a Jet2 bucket and spade holiday) and for an old bird she was spot on. Pilot was excellent, kept everyone informed of the bits we needed to know, safe flight, plane spotless, excellent cabin crew.

Think the Pilot name was David Eels but I was 3 glasses of vino to the wind at this point and listening to The Style Council so I may be wrong on this.

Bravo Jet2, a thoroughly excellent flight in and out on an old 737 300 and a great holiday.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 16:01
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Jet2

Well someone thinks they are doing something right!
Despite the suits (and some in uniform) in LFFH, the share price is moving along nicely.
Keep up the good work boys and girls!
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 16:20
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OOOh the positivity will annoy Taxi Driver
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Old 14th Aug 2015, 18:32
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Well done to jet 2 for doing this

Airline bill for 'disruptive' Jet2.com passenger - BBC News

About time
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Old 15th Aug 2015, 18:11
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hi just been reading this online about jet2 passenger getting a 2,700 bill for been disrupted.
and it say jet2 which fly's from Glasgow Edinburgh and Aberdeen?
didn't think jet2 did flights from Aberdeen is this a new base we don't know about.
Jet2 air rage yob who terrorised cabin crew on flight to Ibiza - gets hit with 2,700 bill - Mirror Online
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