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I understand that, but it's just they're dominance at the airport, theres not enough diversity, I could be feeling like this and saying this because I have just come back from a spotting trip at LHR.
The reality is that unless other operators equip themselves with a/c that are more suitable for SOU ops, and/or the Airport grows some more apron space and a wider/longer runway, then the current situation will continue.
BEE have a decent niche at SOU and tend to adopt predatory behavior when others come in on their territory (as we are seeing now on the MUC route).
BEE have a decent niche at SOU and tend to adopt predatory behavior when others come in on their territory (as we are seeing now on the MUC route).
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Don't all airlines do that though? There's not an airline on this land that'll roll over and just say "oh go on then, you can have the route". Saying that though flybe did just that on a couple of the routes out of BHX a year or so ago, namely Keflavik & Porto, but it was only when they realised they didn't have a chance in hell of competing.
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Oh but there is. I can't think of several airlines and several locations who've just let competitors come in and take their business. They've let competitors take routes and have let competitors take entire bases too.
Don't all airlines do that though?
SOU-LBA has seem the same happen in the past, but Eastern have been back on that route for a while now and seem to have made it stick.
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Summer 2016 at SOU
taken from the airport website:
Southampton Airport has enjoyed a record breaking summer after almost 430,000 passengers travelled through its doors during July and August, representing an increase of 14.6% compared to the same period last year.
August proved to be the airport’s busiest month on record with 219,757 passengers whilst 207,631 passengers used the airport in July. Prior to this year, the airport’s busiest month had been in August 2007 when 205,500 passengers took to the skies.
Strong numbers indeed!!
Southampton Airport has enjoyed a record breaking summer after almost 430,000 passengers travelled through its doors during July and August, representing an increase of 14.6% compared to the same period last year.
August proved to be the airport’s busiest month on record with 219,757 passengers whilst 207,631 passengers used the airport in July. Prior to this year, the airport’s busiest month had been in August 2007 when 205,500 passengers took to the skies.
Strong numbers indeed!!
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May CAA stats
The May CAA stats for SOU are finally visible, with the airport recording a 1% decrease compared with last May. Nearly all the primary domestic routes showed some good growth (BHD, EDI, GLA, MAN, JER, NCL) and the busier European destinations (CDG/ORY, DUB, AMS) performed well, with the latter showing a 51% increase, presumably owing to a certain new arrival. I suspect the overall decrease has come from most of the leisure focused international routes being operated in a more 'seasonal' manner this year by Flybe, as most are showing significant decreases.
DUS performed pretty well, averaging 42 passengers per flight, for a 54% load factor. MUC was off to a slower start, averaging 17 passengers per flight for a 35% load factor. It is worth noting that this is based on all flights being on a E145, whereas in reality some were E135's, plus I believe there were also a couple of cancellations, so the actual value is likely a bit higher than the one I've worked out. ORK did well, averaging over 45 passengers, meaning a 63% load factor, which is pretty good going for a route in its first few weeks.
Good to see record numbers for July and August!
DUS performed pretty well, averaging 42 passengers per flight, for a 54% load factor. MUC was off to a slower start, averaging 17 passengers per flight for a 35% load factor. It is worth noting that this is based on all flights being on a E145, whereas in reality some were E135's, plus I believe there were also a couple of cancellations, so the actual value is likely a bit higher than the one I've worked out. ORK did well, averaging over 45 passengers, meaning a 63% load factor, which is pretty good going for a route in its first few weeks.
Good to see record numbers for July and August!
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Ibiza flights are on hold at the moment as Thomson are trying to source an airline and aircraft to operate the route which has the right capacity for them
Flybe ???
Flybe ???
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Is a non-starter as a B738 will be severely weight restricted with a wet runway at SOU. Air Europa tried it many years ago and ended up diverting flights when runway was wet.
Is a non-starter as a B738 will be severely weight restricted with a wet runway at SOU. Air Europa tried it many years ago and ended up diverting flights when runway was wet.
Due to their lower weight the A319 and B737-700 are best suited, but few carriers operate them in Europe, the former often being displaced by the heavier A320. IMHO the best aircraft to permit significant route expansion at SOU, and finally achieve/exceed 2 million PAX per year is the Bombardier CS100. Unfortunately it would appear that the only European carrier to have as yet bought them is Swiss.
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Not so much a starter strip, more a runway extension so that it can be used as part of the LDA for 02. Part of the penalty incurred with a wet runway affects the landing weight so every extra metre helps, albeit not for 20 as the rail sheds and some houses at the west end of Campbell Road necessitate use of the current 20 displaced threshold.
And don't forget the northern taxiway that has been proposed many times.
The party line put around by BAA was always that the Section 106 Agreement with Local Planning Authority prevented a runway extension, not the case (unless the original has been changed), if a planning application is put in the runway shall not be extended to more than 2000 metres.
Not so much a starter strip, more a runway extension so that it can be used as part of the LDA for 02. Part of the penalty incurred with a wet runway affects the landing weight so every extra metre helps, albeit not for 20 as the rail sheds and some houses at the west end of Campbell Road necessitate use of the current 20 displaced threshold.
And don't forget the northern taxiway that has been proposed many times.
The party line put around by BAA was always that the Section 106 Agreement with Local Planning Authority prevented a runway extension, not the case (unless the original has been changed), if a planning application is put in the runway shall not be extended to more than 2000 metres.
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Thomson are busy sourcing another airline as Volotea are not being used for next years Palma flights from either Southampton or Southend
Flights are still on sale to Palma though but on hold to Ibiza at the moment
Volotea are still operating from Jersey to Palma and Tenerife so not sure what the problem is exactly
Flights are still on sale to Palma though but on hold to Ibiza at the moment
Volotea are still operating from Jersey to Palma and Tenerife so not sure what the problem is exactly
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With this in mind,can we expect volotea to pull out of the schedule services to palma next year,if so then what a shame after so short of time!.Can anybody operate package deals from Southampton with current aircraft fleets?