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New routes might be pushing it, the 757 plan still needs to be officially announced and it's believed new routes might happen with that but with EI you never really know until the wheels lift off the runway on the inaugural flight!
Would like to know if there's an announcement this week though.
Would like to know if there's an announcement this week though.
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New routes might be pushing it, the 757 plan still needs to be officially announced and it's believed new routes might happen with that but with EI you never really know until the wheels lift off the runway on the inaugural flight!
Would like to know if there's an announcement this week though.
Would like to know if there's an announcement this week though.
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@shamrock350: B757 lease from "early 2014" was announced by EI in the 2012 Full Year results presentation.
I think people are waiting to hear what EI plan to do with the A330 capacity that the B757 will free up......
I think people are waiting to hear what EI plan to do with the A330 capacity that the B757 will free up......
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While I think you did make the post where you intended originally, you may want to check your clipboard
While I think you did make the post where you intended originally, you may want to check your clipboard
Aer Lingus board supports pension recommendation - RTÉ News
Clearly one shareholder not happy
Spineless Aer Lingus Board Roll Over Again And Again At Cost Of?
Clearly one shareholder not happy
Spineless Aer Lingus Board Roll Over Again And Again At Cost Of?
Spineless Aer Lingus Board Roll Over Again And Again At Cost Of?
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I think I speak MOL pretty well, so allow me to translate for you guys.
"The management are going to avert a strike. I don't want this to happen, the strike should go ahead. The strike should be forced to go ahead so that Aer Lingus goes bankrupt. Aer Lingus going bankrupt would be great because then we'll be the only ones left and then I can charge everyone €2,000 for a ticket to get off this island and I'll be RICH!!!"
So yeh, that roughly sums up what he just said...
"The management are going to avert a strike. I don't want this to happen, the strike should go ahead. The strike should be forced to go ahead so that Aer Lingus goes bankrupt. Aer Lingus going bankrupt would be great because then we'll be the only ones left and then I can charge everyone €2,000 for a ticket to get off this island and I'll be RICH!!!"
So yeh, that roughly sums up what he just said...
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No bias at all from Willie Walsh here. 
Aer Lingus better off being owned by O'Leary, says Walsh - Independent.ie
Aer Lingus better off being owned by O'Leary, says Walsh - Independent.ie
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"The management are going to avert a strike. I don't want this to happen, the strike should go ahead. The strike should be forced to go ahead so that Aer Lingus goes bankrupt. Aer Lingus going bankrupt would be great because then we'll be the only ones left and then I can charge everyone €2,000 for a ticket to get off this island and I'll be RICH!!!"
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Amazing what unabated hatred does to the mind. The only reason I'm replying to this is to inform the poster that MOL is already RICH!!!, LOL.
I don't hate him at all, I think he's done great things, I also think he's done some pretty awful things, but no one's perfect. I just make sure that when it comes to things he says about Aer Lingus, I remember that he's saying them from the point of view of how Ryanair can benefit the most.
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I think seeing as the share price jumped to a near 5 year (4 year, 9 months) high following the announcement, I'm guessing most share holders are going to be pretty happy about the development.
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Poor old Willy is really getting it from all sides these days. Its gotten so bad that he now feels he has to jump into bed with MOL. The reality is you have to take everything that the man says with a grain of salt.
Iberia are p*ssing cash on a daily basis. The big airline alliances are coming at him from all sides at LHR and now his Irish customers are favouring flying East with the likes of Etihad and Emirates.
And then of course don't forget the history where he wasn't allowed to undertake a management buy out of AL and take it private himself and carve it up. He really is still quite bitter about this. Enough of my colleagues run into him on a regular basis when he is back home and you can guarantee he doesn't have anything nice to say about AL. That should be motivation enough that we must be doing alright!
Iberia are p*ssing cash on a daily basis. The big airline alliances are coming at him from all sides at LHR and now his Irish customers are favouring flying East with the likes of Etihad and Emirates.
And then of course don't forget the history where he wasn't allowed to undertake a management buy out of AL and take it private himself and carve it up. He really is still quite bitter about this. Enough of my colleagues run into him on a regular basis when he is back home and you can guarantee he doesn't have anything nice to say about AL. That should be motivation enough that we must be doing alright!
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LOL, I think the concept that Ireland must keep Aer Lingus in situ to keep Ryanair fares down is hilarious.
Like many, I can’t understand why the UK has taken this action and would like to know the real reason for it (we can all speculate, of course).
I would also ask why a few here appear to be happy with UK involvement (interference) in Irish aviation affairs especially when it has no conceivable relevance to its own flying public and neither the Irish nor European agencies agree with them.
I would further ask why some people believe that a foreign airline buying EI would be considered as better for the Irish flying public than a wholly Irish hugely successful and extremely well run airline in great financial health.
Much of the anti-Ryanair stuff that is posted here and elsewhere arises from the fact that their arrival on the scene (and MOL, in particular) sounded the death-knell for the old-style practice of running an airline for the benefit of unions and staff that precluded the vast majority of Irish people from being able to afford to fly. The huge and ongoing resistance to change at EI (forced on them by FR) has cost the airline millions in lost revenue due to strikes/threats to strike, the costs of redundancy awards, special payments, special “extra” payments et al. Not to mention the other millions wasted in fuel costs and ops for years forcing them to land at Shannon on T/A. The last thing an airline needs is involvement with Government, people with vested interests on the Board and intransigent unions.
For that reason, I'm out and, personally, would prefer that FR didn’t take over EI. The contamination risk for FR is too high, IMHO.
Like many, I can’t understand why the UK has taken this action and would like to know the real reason for it (we can all speculate, of course).
I would also ask why a few here appear to be happy with UK involvement (interference) in Irish aviation affairs especially when it has no conceivable relevance to its own flying public and neither the Irish nor European agencies agree with them.
I would further ask why some people believe that a foreign airline buying EI would be considered as better for the Irish flying public than a wholly Irish hugely successful and extremely well run airline in great financial health.
Much of the anti-Ryanair stuff that is posted here and elsewhere arises from the fact that their arrival on the scene (and MOL, in particular) sounded the death-knell for the old-style practice of running an airline for the benefit of unions and staff that precluded the vast majority of Irish people from being able to afford to fly. The huge and ongoing resistance to change at EI (forced on them by FR) has cost the airline millions in lost revenue due to strikes/threats to strike, the costs of redundancy awards, special payments, special “extra” payments et al. Not to mention the other millions wasted in fuel costs and ops for years forcing them to land at Shannon on T/A. The last thing an airline needs is involvement with Government, people with vested interests on the Board and intransigent unions.
For that reason, I'm out and, personally, would prefer that FR didn’t take over EI. The contamination risk for FR is too high, IMHO.
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The reason we want the to remain seperate is because if they were one, then they'd have over 90% of the traffic to and from Ireland, they could charge what they liked. And to those that think "The Market" would come and save us, it simply wouldn't, NO ONE, competes against Ryanair, Aer Lingus are the only airline that have managed to do it.
We want two airlines serving us to make sure that there's competition, and that prices remain reasonable. We don't want to go back to the days where there was only one airline and they charged a fortune to get off the ISLAND. We are happy that the UK has intervened because our own politicians are too weak willed to say no to MOL. We need at least two airlines providing services to ensure that we get a reasonable deal. As Aer Lingus is the only airline capable of competing with Ryanair, we need them to stay seperate.
What is so hard about this for some people to grasp, a MONOPOLY is NEVER good for the consumers...
We want two airlines serving us to make sure that there's competition, and that prices remain reasonable. We don't want to go back to the days where there was only one airline and they charged a fortune to get off the ISLAND. We are happy that the UK has intervened because our own politicians are too weak willed to say no to MOL. We need at least two airlines providing services to ensure that we get a reasonable deal. As Aer Lingus is the only airline capable of competing with Ryanair, we need them to stay seperate.
What is so hard about this for some people to grasp, a MONOPOLY is NEVER good for the consumers...
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Competition
I think if FR got EI he would close it now some may not care some would,
FR were bailed out by GVt action in taking EI out of STN and Lpl to ensure
Our small island had two airlines competing , sometimes we have had more than two but the time we had just one based here was bad for everyone,
Fr have done a great job, they don't need to close EI
Share price and last bid offer of 130cent indicate that MOL undervalues EI , one day it will be sold and for a realistic price, that's business it's just that short to medium term EI is better off with Anyone than FR
Ba are hoping EI are bought by Fr and closed , might send a few passengers BA way and keep EY out of IAG ever decreasing back yard
FR were bailed out by GVt action in taking EI out of STN and Lpl to ensure
Our small island had two airlines competing , sometimes we have had more than two but the time we had just one based here was bad for everyone,
Fr have done a great job, they don't need to close EI
Share price and last bid offer of 130cent indicate that MOL undervalues EI , one day it will be sold and for a realistic price, that's business it's just that short to medium term EI is better off with Anyone than FR
Ba are hoping EI are bought by Fr and closed , might send a few passengers BA way and keep EY out of IAG ever decreasing back yard
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What is so hard about this for some people to grasp, a MONOPOLY is NEVER good for the consumers...
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