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Old 18th Oct 2016, 11:07
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Completely out of idle curiosity;

i) Any indication of when EI-FNG will return to service (do EI own or lease the engines?)

ii) what's the latest on EI-DUO now that she's back in DUB. How extensive is the damage and how long before she's back in operation?

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Old 18th Oct 2016, 15:18
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EI-FNG is due to operate the afternoon JFK on Thursday.
Not sure about EI-DUO.
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 12:27
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Charters

Are the LGW ones still going and where do they operate to these days.
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 13:04
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Winter 16/17 Charters

Are the LGW ones still going and where do they operate to these days.
Geneva - Gatwick (x1)
Grenoble - Gatwick (x1)*
Lyon - Gatwick (x2)
Reykjavik - Dublin
Salzburg - Belfast City (x1)*, Cork (x1), Dublin (x2)
Toulouse - Dublin (x2)
Verona - Belfast City (x1), Dublin (x1)

* Additions

Rovaniemi has a a few once off services to DUB/ORK
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 23:17
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I see SNN to JFK disrupted Wed, Thursday and Friday again this week. What's the problem this time? Due to travel on EI 111 next week...what are my chances?
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Old 22nd Oct 2016, 13:14
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A Croatian news paper has reported that Croatian Airlines will sell its 9 weekly slot pairs at LHR , the article suggests that Aer Lingus could be the buyer.
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Old 22nd Oct 2016, 16:00
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Aer Lingus or IAG? Surely EI don't get to make purchases or financial decisions as big as those any more without consulting the main shareholder?
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Old 22nd Oct 2016, 16:52
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I'd have thought so EISNN but it referred to EI...

http://www.total-croatia-news.com/it...ondon-heathrow
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Old 22nd Oct 2016, 17:43
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There's all kinds of restrictions on BA aquiring new slots at LHR, EI getting them, using them for a required minimum period (3 years IIRC) and then giving them to BA might be away around these restrictions. Just a thought.
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Old 22nd Oct 2016, 17:47
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There are no restrictions on BA buying more slots at LHR. The only restrictions are on it making slots available to new entrants under the terms of IAG's purchase of bmi and the AA/BA joint-venture.

As for EI buying slots, it would need approval of IAG but IAG itself would not buy the slots as it is a management/holding company not an airline.
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Old 22nd Oct 2016, 19:49
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I can't see IAG doing anything but approving the purchase. EI have leased them out before and made a lot of cash so if they have no work they could do the same again but I suspect they have something planned if they do purchase them.

Anyone know the times Croatian have them at?
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 08:37
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Just had look there, based on S16 the following times were broadly in place:

Mon - 1700
Tue - 1050
Wed - 1150, 1700
Thurs - 1050
Fri - 1700
Sat - 1050, 1640
Sun - 1050

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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 09:17
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Those slots are clearly less attractive for long haul arrivals, the turns are too short for long haul too. IAG can reshuffle the decks between BA, IB, EI and VG to get optimal scheduling across long, short haul, over the Irish Sea and LCC operations. No-one else at LHR can do that.
DUB, ORK, SNN and BHD all have service around the time of the Croatia slots. I presume Croatia operate from T2, as EI do?

Looking at the slots Croatia are looking to sell a hypothetical NOC schedule could look something like:
NOC 0830 LHR 1000 -234-67
LHR 1050 NOC 1220 -234-67

NOC 1745 LHR 1915 1-3-56-
LHR 2000 NOC 2130 1-3-56-

The time of the slots necessitates a NOC based/overnighting aircraft, unless EI were to do some serious shuffling. They might be able to get flights from LHR on Tuesdays, Thursdays or Sundays around 2200, when the last ORK flight departs. LHR is relatively quiet at that time of the day.

The question is what EI would do with an aircraft in the middle of the day, either leave it sitting at NOC or try some new routes. Do they muscle in on flyBe to the UK, continue with LGW service or try the likes of Paris, etc. Clearly NOC-LGW works for EI, its about all thats left of the LGW experiment. The EI service to LGW is the only service from the west of Ireland to South London. Would the traffic follow EI around the M25? Against this, they have never tried twice daily, as far as I remember.

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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 13:02
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Travel Extra report Miami and Dallas will be announced on 4 November (investor day).

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That 08.30 service could well be used to fill the gap ex DUB in schedules, 07.30 and 09.40 and an extra evening would be no problem.

I don't think NOC is high yielding enough maintain a LhR service.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 17:07
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Originally Posted by EI-A330-300 View Post
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That 08.30 service could well be used to fill the gap ex DUB in schedules, 07.30 and 09.40 and an extra evening would be no problem.

I don't think NOC is high yielding enough maintain a LhR service.
As I suggested, I do wonder if LHR-NOC is likely or viable. That said BA do have a service at 0845 ex DUB, depending on how closely the two airlines work together in the future this may be enough. Between them they offer 16 flights in each direction between Heathrow and Dublin. The question is if they need to offer 18? They might!
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 18:08
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey View Post
As I suggested, I do wonder if LHR-NOC is likely or viable. That said BA do have a service at 0845 ex DUB, depending on how closely the two airlines work together in the future this may be enough. Between them they offer 16 flights in each direction between Heathrow and Dublin. The question is if they need to offer 18? They might!
They actually both fly up to 21 daily at the minute. LHR will always fill capacity as for many its the prefered London airport.

You often hear speculation thst EI will fly the A330 to LHR in the mornings however I don't see it happening.

I just don't see NOC as high yielding for LHR service. Would be really suprised if they got such s service which would be massive for the airport.

Guess time will tell if they get the slots!
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 20:51
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The Shannon thing made the Times today:
Craft shortage blamed for Aer Lingus cancellations
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 23:09
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The disadvantages of a small short haul fleet.
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Old 24th Oct 2016, 02:22
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Originally Posted by nguba View Post
There are no restrictions on BA buying more slots at LHR. The only restrictions are on it making slots available to new entrants
I assume you're referring to the 50/50 rule affecting new slots? I.E.new slots are allocated 50% to existing carriers and 50% to new entrants?
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 17:26
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IAG released Q3 results yesterday and while nothing specific to EI they stated EI's operating margin was 29.7% over the period (BA 18.6%, VU 17.4%, IB 15.9%)

In terms of OW on track for 2017 and this on JV:

Mr Walsh also said that negotiations that will see Aer Lingus join a joint venture that includes British Airways and American Airlines and operates across the North Atlantic, are "progressing well". The joint venture sees American and British Airways share revenue.

The model helps them to deepen their network penetration, and coordinate schedules and pricing.

Mr Walsh said Aer Lingus will initially do more code-sharing with American before joining the venture.

"Then it's how we bring them [Aer Lingus] into the joint business," he said.

"Aer Lingus is unique in terms of how it operates and can operate on the transatlantic, and therefore we need to ensure that flexibility is retained and not in any way inhibited by being part of the joint business.

"We don't want a straitjacket placed on Aer Lingus," the chief executive said.

Mr Walsh said that American previously "didn't fully understand the Aer Lingus model", and that it now "better understands" the opportunity that Aer Lingus presents, both as a standalone entity and as part of an alliance.
'Impressive' summer for Aer Lingus but sterling weighs on IAG parent - Independent.ie
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