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Race do, your such a sore loser and a moan. You've more or less got your money back. Willy and your blue team will share the spoils. It's win win for you.
Race do, your such a sore loser and a moan. You've more or less got your money back. Willy and your blue team will share the spoils. It's win win for you.
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Interesting that IAG have come back so quickly with a second offer which is admittedly not a big move on the original offer.
I'd imagine they'll let the dust settle this week and review the situation. EI confirmed the previous guidance for 2014 numbers last week and with the full results due 24 Feb, they may take a wait and see approach.
IAG will also be busy with their year end numbers due to be released Feb 27.
I'd imagine they'll let the dust settle this week and review the situation. EI confirmed the previous guidance for 2014 numbers last week and with the full results due 24 Feb, they may take a wait and see approach.
IAG will also be busy with their year end numbers due to be released Feb 27.
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Just did EI128/129 (YYZ) on EI/Air Contractors. First time t/a with EI, more familiar with the A320 services ex LHR.
Chose them over AC principally for time - to ensure I could get to DUB from the Cork area before departure. The single aisle layout meant the aircraft was slow to load (in part due to limited overhead space in high density config) and lights not turned off on the night leg until over 3hrs into a 6hr flight. The IFE was great, including USB port, but a bit more variety in the kids product would have been nice. That goes double for food - I had a 3 year old with me and was fortunate that an obliging FA scrounged up some spare cheese packets. I would have acquiesced to a purchase such as the upsell adult meal but there is no such thing for kids. I also noticed no mid route passes with water and juice as offered by BA for example which to me is a miss.
I am delighted that EI is part of a long sought direct offering over the winter but they are head to head with faster, twin aisle AC763s and my mother was very impressed with the reasonably priced PE Rouge product (I refused to risk Econ given what I had heard). The poor OTP leaving DUB is also a concern - headwinds and weather/cold at YYZ will give enough grief without starting out late too. My seat mate to DUB almost certainly missed her Rome connection when by schedule she had 2 hours to make it.
Maybe if IAG take over EI the BA763s will be resurrected from Victorville to take over the 757 routes. Would give some extra cargo capacity at least.
Chose them over AC principally for time - to ensure I could get to DUB from the Cork area before departure. The single aisle layout meant the aircraft was slow to load (in part due to limited overhead space in high density config) and lights not turned off on the night leg until over 3hrs into a 6hr flight. The IFE was great, including USB port, but a bit more variety in the kids product would have been nice. That goes double for food - I had a 3 year old with me and was fortunate that an obliging FA scrounged up some spare cheese packets. I would have acquiesced to a purchase such as the upsell adult meal but there is no such thing for kids. I also noticed no mid route passes with water and juice as offered by BA for example which to me is a miss.
I am delighted that EI is part of a long sought direct offering over the winter but they are head to head with faster, twin aisle AC763s and my mother was very impressed with the reasonably priced PE Rouge product (I refused to risk Econ given what I had heard). The poor OTP leaving DUB is also a concern - headwinds and weather/cold at YYZ will give enough grief without starting out late too. My seat mate to DUB almost certainly missed her Rome connection when by schedule she had 2 hours to make it.
Maybe if IAG take over EI the BA763s will be resurrected from Victorville to take over the 757 routes. Would give some extra cargo capacity at least.
They would need to provide crews to fly them as well, which would be a minefield of union negotiations on both sides. More likely in my opinion would be ex Iberia 340s coming in, it's the same rating as the 330 for pilots and engineers
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Just did EI128/129 (YYZ) on EI/Air Contractors. First time t/a with EI, more familiar with the A320 services ex LHR.
Chose them over AC principally for time - to ensure I could get to DUB from the Cork area before departure. The single aisle layout meant the aircraft was slow to load (in part due to limited overhead space in high density config) and lights not turned off on the night leg until over 3hrs into a 6hr flight. The IFE was great, including USB port, but a bit more variety in the kids product would have been nice. That goes double for food - I had a 3 year old with me and was fortunate that an obliging FA scrounged up some spare cheese packets. I would have acquiesced to a purchase such as the upsell adult meal but there is no such thing for kids. I also noticed no mid route passes with water and juice as offered by BA for example which to me is a miss.
I am delighted that EI is part of a long sought direct offering over the winter but they are head to head with faster, twin aisle AC763s and my mother was very impressed with the reasonably priced PE Rouge product (I refused to risk Econ given what I had heard). The poor OTP leaving DUB is also a concern - headwinds and weather/cold at YYZ will give enough grief without starting out late too. My seat mate to DUB almost certainly missed her Rome connection when by schedule she had 2 hours to make it.
Maybe if IAG take over EI the BA763s will be resurrected from Victorville to take over the 757 routes. Would give some extra cargo capacity at least.
Chose them over AC principally for time - to ensure I could get to DUB from the Cork area before departure. The single aisle layout meant the aircraft was slow to load (in part due to limited overhead space in high density config) and lights not turned off on the night leg until over 3hrs into a 6hr flight. The IFE was great, including USB port, but a bit more variety in the kids product would have been nice. That goes double for food - I had a 3 year old with me and was fortunate that an obliging FA scrounged up some spare cheese packets. I would have acquiesced to a purchase such as the upsell adult meal but there is no such thing for kids. I also noticed no mid route passes with water and juice as offered by BA for example which to me is a miss.
I am delighted that EI is part of a long sought direct offering over the winter but they are head to head with faster, twin aisle AC763s and my mother was very impressed with the reasonably priced PE Rouge product (I refused to risk Econ given what I had heard). The poor OTP leaving DUB is also a concern - headwinds and weather/cold at YYZ will give enough grief without starting out late too. My seat mate to DUB almost certainly missed her Rome connection when by schedule she had 2 hours to make it.
Maybe if IAG take over EI the BA763s will be resurrected from Victorville to take over the 757 routes. Would give some extra cargo capacity at least.
Even if it has departed DUB on time it was nearly always late returning during the summer. Average 30-40 minutes.
They would need to provide crews to fly them as well, which would be a minefield of union negotiations on both sides. More likely in my opinion would be ex Iberia 340s coming in, it's the same rating as the 330 for pilots and engineers
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The *average* delay out of DUB is half an hour? What on Earth's going on there? Also a B757 transatlantic is a 90 minute turnaround at most, even in high density charter config.
I agree the 340's are guzzlers, and you can forget trying to give one a reasonable climb rate above FL280 ish (well the a343 anyway). I don't think either the ex BA 76's or IB 340's would end up with EI in IAG, but if it was a choice between the 2, 340's would be cheaper for EI
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The interesting thing is that while EI are competing with AC they are also cooperating - lots of bags on my flight connecting to YVR on AC. The pax had been told via PA announcement to head directly to flight connections to make their onward flight, which likely means they will have to make a return trip to YVR to get their bags which will not have cleared customs, since they were lying on the YYZ carousel when I left.
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If O'Leary wants to enhance his famed 'cute hoorism', now is the time to throw in an offer of 5 euro a share!
I'm not sure what the legalities are, given his ongoing appeal against a forced sale - but if he's in some kind of legal limbo at present that such a bid would be presumed viable for the present, why not? He could double his money.
Go on Micko - show us you have the balls!
I'm not sure what the legalities are, given his ongoing appeal against a forced sale - but if he's in some kind of legal limbo at present that such a bid would be presumed viable for the present, why not? He could double his money.
Go on Micko - show us you have the balls!
If O'Leary wants to enhance his famed 'cute hoorism', now is the time to throw in an offer of 5 euro a share!
I'm not sure what the legalities are, given his ongoing appeal against a forced sale - but if he's in some kind of legal limbo at present that such a bid would be presumed viable for the present, why not? He could double his money.
Go on Micko - show us you have the balls!
I'm not sure what the legalities are, given his ongoing appeal against a forced sale - but if he's in some kind of legal limbo at present that such a bid would be presumed viable for the present, why not? He could double his money.
Go on Micko - show us you have the balls!
Why would he suggest they chuck millions away on something that will never pay back ?
FR have proven they not stupid.
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Yeah, whatever you say. It's not his money, I agree, but he's the CEO and responsible for all the time energy and cash wasted in the futile effort to takeover EI.
They might well get their money back, more by luck than planning, and thanks to his mate Willy. But the loss of face is enormous. He failed - with a Capital F - to destroy his only home competitor.
Besides that, it has been a waste of his time and energy, a 7 year distraction that led to absolutely zilch.
If IAG wasn't interested in buying right now he'd be facing a fire sale, forced on him by the courts, and a financial wipeout.
The fact that he's got nothing to say any more just shows he's beaten, and accepts it.
Ta Ra.
They might well get their money back, more by luck than planning, and thanks to his mate Willy. But the loss of face is enormous. He failed - with a Capital F - to destroy his only home competitor.
Besides that, it has been a waste of his time and energy, a 7 year distraction that led to absolutely zilch.
If IAG wasn't interested in buying right now he'd be facing a fire sale, forced on him by the courts, and a financial wipeout.
The fact that he's got nothing to say any more just shows he's beaten, and accepts it.
Ta Ra.
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The late flights from Cork and Dublin to Heathrow have been cancelled today due to anticipated weather.
It seems a bit odd as no other airlines have cancelled at Heathrow and Aer Lingus haven't cancelled any other flights in Cork or Dublin.
Maybe the word 'yet' needs to go into that last sentence though.
It seems a bit odd as no other airlines have cancelled at Heathrow and Aer Lingus haven't cancelled any other flights in Cork or Dublin.
Maybe the word 'yet' needs to go into that last sentence though.