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Old 11th Dec 2014, 07:20
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It looks like Ryanair did vote because the total votes cast were around 80% of votes in issue. Unless they only voted part of their shareholding which wouldn't make much sense....
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Old 11th Dec 2014, 22:27
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FR didn't vote at the agm. They voted in advance of the agm.
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Old 12th Dec 2014, 13:15
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According to The Irish Independent, 10th Dec 2014

Aer Lingus could have new CEO by end of month
Aer Lingus could have new CEO by end of month - Independent.ie

JAS
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 12:33
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Form of Business Class may return to key Euro routes next year. Believed to be called Premier Europe.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 12:40
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It was reported in the Independent today, appears to suggest the Premier Europe name because Premier is what Aer Lingus brand their transatlantic business product but this hasn't been the case for a few years now, everything was rebranded simply as Business Class so I doubt it's going to happen. A more finely tuned business fare might be offered in the near future but I don't see the return of a separate cabin.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 14:13
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Could fit in with the 330s being used on limited European routes next year. The early Rome flight tends to be rammed in the Summer I'm told
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 14:34
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Rumours of possible bid from IAG for EI|
Aer Lingus shares jump after rumoured IAG bid

http://www.4-traders.com/RYANAIR-HOL...imes-19564343/

UK rule tomorrow on Ryanair stake.

As for the Business class that's where I saw it but couldn't post a link.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 14:42
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IAG bid for Aer Lingus has been rejected.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 14:51
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So it has!

Aer Lingus rejects IAG takeover approach - RTÉ News
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 14:57
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BA trying to add to their slots and build a monopoly at LHR
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 15:06
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BA trying to add to their slots and build a monopoly at LHR
Walsh knows the Government would not give them backing unless all the slots were to remain on Irish-LHR routes so that can't be his main motivation.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 17:59
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Cool Ei aircraft on order

IAG maybe aware of the pending ruling outcome re FR share holding,
EI may look again at LHR ABZ/EDi flights when Wee REd finishes
BA see EI 350 order for 9 planes as worth grabbing for themselves, long lead in time for a new Airbus and BAcmight want these from EI and

EI are taking good volumes of pax ex UK to USA , so remove a competitor , get new planes quicker and more slots , worth a punt , but my shares are staying with me for now
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 01:14
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BA trying to add to their slots and build a monopoly at LHR
Walsh knows the Government would not give them backing unless all the slots were to remain on Irish-LHR routes so that can't be his main motivation.
Having seen the asset-stripping of BD slots by LH from the sidelines before 2012, acquiring EI may have more to do with preventing the same being done to EI by another carrier rather than BA doing it. BA are not actually short of LHR slots now, and may be getting another 9 slot pairs when VS ends domestic in 2015.
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 07:44
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IAG

In my view, this is a positive development. I see natuaral synergies between IAG and Aer Lingus. And contrary to comments, I do not see this as being an attempt by BA to gain more US traffic via LHR ex Ireland. The Ireland US network is strong, and will continue to grow. Dublin has potential for massive EU-US expansion. Like Dubai has, and we see even at airports like Reykjavik Icelandair, on the back of a very small population can sustain a great US network built on connecting traffic, Dublin has so much more potential.

The Dublin/ London route is a massive market, which is totally a focal point, why on earth would BA be a threat to that. What I could see is that larger aircraft could be used at a reduced frequency, that would make a lot of sense. Many of the departure times of BA and EI are largely complimentary in any case. Consolidate Aer Lingus' position on Ireland UK and release some slots, continue to grow the hub at Dublin.

The other benefits would be those of scale e.g. procurement and handling etc. Aer Lingus could bring its own strenghts to bear on the group operation and secure its future, which without a strong partner, could be extremely challenging. IAG is the right group for EI....
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 08:11
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If IAG were successful in a bid for Aer Lingus, there would be a referral to the competition authorities, who would analyse the deal on a route-by-route basis. DUB-LHR is currently an EI/BA duopoly and would fall to a monopoly, so one would expect that the price of approval for a deal would be the surrender of a package of slots in DUB and LHR to allow a competitor to enter that route. Who would a credible competitor be? Easyjet? Eurowings? Little Red operated by Aer Lingus? (that last one is a joke, by the way )
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 19:56
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Cyrano, re your comments about surrender of slots on DUB LHR, we didn't see the same when IB and BA came together in IAG. In fact BA exclusively operate LHR BCN now ...
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 20:42
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The Dublin/ London route is a massive market, which is totally a focal point, why on earth would BA be a threat to that. What I could see is that larger aircraft could be used at a reduced frequency, that would make a lot of sense. Many of the departure times of BA and EI are largely complimentary in any case. Consolidate Aer Lingus' position on Ireland UK and release some slots, continue to grow the hub at Dublin.
Didn't BA codeshare with EI on LHR-DUB when BD was on the route and BA wern't.

The other benefits would be those of scale e.g. procurement and handling etc. Aer Lingus could bring its own strenghts to bear on the group operation and secure its future, which without a strong partner, could be extremely challenging. IAG is the right group for EI....
Agreed, and it would probably lead to EI rejoining Oneworld and possibly the BA/AA/IB joint venture on TA.

Cyrano, re your comments about surrender of slots on DUB LHR, we didn't see the same when IB and BA came together in IAG. In fact BA exclusively operate LHR BCN now ...
Indeed, and IAG ownership or not, LHR-ORK and LHR-SNN would remain EI only routes.

Maybe there would be an issue for LHR-DUB and some slots would have to go, but only if another carrier was interested, and judging by the VS experience............
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 20:50
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After Little Red

Mm hear that the 4 320's will be rebranded Star Alliance and continue on ABZ and EDI ,with UA as a partner
Now that might cause a few thoughts on bid offers?
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 22:27
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From where will they obtain the slots for this?
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Old 20th Dec 2014, 12:26
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I think they already have the slots. AFAIK Virgin were using EI slots with their Little Red
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