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LOS is one of VS most lucrative routes so I would be extremely surprised to see VS leave there. Good connection traffic from the US as well as healthy loads ex LHR not leaving out good cargo traffic as well. The idea seems to have sprung from some rather sensational reporting in the Nigerian media. Sadly the Nigerian crew are to very soon become no more. HKG,PVG,DEL crews are also being badly affected by job losses as well. So sadly Skipness you are a little wide of the Mark. However, nothing these days would surprise me.
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Interesting disclosure communication to travel agents today.
Stop Press 852: Virgin Atlantic International Limited (VAIL)
We need to let you know about the set-up of our new airline Virgin Atlantic International Limited (VAIL), which will commence operations from Wednesday 25 November 2015. VAIL will have its own Air Operating Certificate (AOC) and Operating Licence.
VAIL's services will be operated by Virgin Atlantic's existing team of pilors and cabin crew, using two of our A330-300 aircraft, and will be flying from London Gatwick to Barbados, St Lucia, Antigua, Grenada and Tobago. All flights will be operated under VS/VIR flight numbers.
Although you will need to inform your customers that their flight will be operated by VAIL on Virgin Atlantic's brhalf, there won't be any any changes to their overall customer experience.
Our other flights to the Caribbean- inclusing our 747 services - will continue to operate under Virgin Atlantic's existing AOC.
Stop Press 852: Virgin Atlantic International Limited (VAIL)
We need to let you know about the set-up of our new airline Virgin Atlantic International Limited (VAIL), which will commence operations from Wednesday 25 November 2015. VAIL will have its own Air Operating Certificate (AOC) and Operating Licence.
VAIL's services will be operated by Virgin Atlantic's existing team of pilors and cabin crew, using two of our A330-300 aircraft, and will be flying from London Gatwick to Barbados, St Lucia, Antigua, Grenada and Tobago. All flights will be operated under VS/VIR flight numbers.
Although you will need to inform your customers that their flight will be operated by VAIL on Virgin Atlantic's brhalf, there won't be any any changes to their overall customer experience.
Our other flights to the Caribbean- inclusing our 747 services - will continue to operate under Virgin Atlantic's existing AOC.
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Perhaps in the short term that they want to operate these aircraft under different terms and conditions e.g. staffing agreements than the rest of the fleet.
In the long term I am not sure that the DL/VS management see the Gatwick Caribbean holiday routes as really a fit so maybe this would ease the sale of this part of the business.
PS I cannot substantiate the above- just my thinking on a Rumour forum/
In the long term I am not sure that the DL/VS management see the Gatwick Caribbean holiday routes as really a fit so maybe this would ease the sale of this part of the business.
PS I cannot substantiate the above- just my thinking on a Rumour forum/
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Surely someone proof read that before publishing it? I know we can all be lazy with our spelling but if that was cut and pasted from an official press release then someone needs a good boot up the hole....
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That's confusing, what does that mean?
Perhaps in the short term that they want to operate these aircraft under different terms and conditions e.g. staffing agreements than the rest of the fleet.
In the long term I am not sure that the DL/VS management see the Gatwick Caribbean holiday routes as really a fit so maybe this would ease the sale of this part of the business.
PS I cannot substantiate the above- just my thinking on a Rumour forum/
PS I cannot substantiate the above- just my thinking on a Rumour forum/
Would this be the end of VS at LGW? Might it be bought by BA?
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Would this be the end of VS at LGW?
Why only the A333s? Maybe something like the two BA A318s on a different AOC at LCY, the point of which was soon forgotten.....
...or maybe set up to operate A380s in the long term? Maybe not.
Anyone know the latest on the ever delayed (and possibly forgotten) Flying Forehead order? With the recent fleet attrition, they look like even less of a fit for the airline.
Maybe an A350-1000 order, with most of the A380 deposits saved could be a future option, with the leased A330s going back before too long.
Sorry, I bought the ticket to Speculation Central, possibly heading for Wideofthemarksville.
Anyone know the latest on the ever delayed (and possibly forgotten) Flying Forehead order? With the recent fleet attrition, they look like even less of a fit for the airline.
Maybe an A350-1000 order, with most of the A380 deposits saved could be a future option, with the leased A330s going back before too long.
Sorry, I bought the ticket to Speculation Central, possibly heading for Wideofthemarksville.
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isn't the VS LGW operation more or less a duplication of the best bits of the BA longhaul operation ?
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...or maybe set up to operate A380s in the long term? Maybe not.
G-VFAB went to Goodyear, Arizona, 21 years old B744 unliekly to find a new home I think.
G-VWOW ended up in San Antonio, only 14 years old but the scrapman awaits?
G-VWOW ended up in San Antonio, only 14 years old but the scrapman awaits?
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Flybe codeshare with Virgin Atlantic announced covering the following routes:
Manchester:
Aberdeen Amsterdam Belfast City Paris Düsseldorf Edinburgh Knock Exeter Hannover Jersey Milan Newquay Rotterdam Southampton
Glasgow:
Belfast City Birmingham Cardifff East Midlands Southampton
Gatwick:
Newquay
Manchester:
Aberdeen Amsterdam Belfast City Paris Düsseldorf Edinburgh Knock Exeter Hannover Jersey Milan Newquay Rotterdam Southampton
Glasgow:
Belfast City Birmingham Cardifff East Midlands Southampton
Gatwick:
Newquay
Yes but DL I believe that taking back VS's DTW - LHR and one of the daily ATL - LHR services so its just a transfer of routes with little difference in flying hours. (I believe that there is an agreement between DL & ALPA limiting VS flying but others will know more.)
Right VS has premium economy product. I think that DL is introducing one but right now only has extra legroom seats. I don't know if this has anything to so with flying the SEA route where the main competition is BA.
The swap would appear to be logical - DTW & ATL are major DL bases and many passengers will be transferring from domestic DL flights so will receive the same product throughout. DL doesn't have the same brand awareness as Virgin in the North West so it makes sense for VS to fly it. Just my thoughts. Everything may change again in a years time.
Right VS has premium economy product. I think that DL is introducing one but right now only has extra legroom seats. I don't know if this has anything to so with flying the SEA route where the main competition is BA.
The swap would appear to be logical - DTW & ATL are major DL bases and many passengers will be transferring from domestic DL flights so will receive the same product throughout. DL doesn't have the same brand awareness as Virgin in the North West so it makes sense for VS to fly it. Just my thoughts. Everything may change again in a years time.