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Thomson have suspended flights to SSH with immediate effect, flights are currently planned to resume mid September.
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Does anyone know what happens to the US preclearance @ Dub after 26th October? Are Lingus website only quotes flights upto 26th October which i presume coincides with the summer schedule coming to a close.
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Regarding the US border pre-clearance in DUB, is that something that any airport can do or is it specific to Ireland in some historical link? If it is a matter of paying for the service, how much does it cost?
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Regarding the US border pre-clearance in DUB, is that something that any airport can do or is it specific to Ireland in some historical link? If it is a matter of paying for the service, how much does it cost?
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Not sure if the Abu Dhabi facility will go-ahead as the US House of Representatives in June 2013 prohibited the DHS from using any taxpayer dollars to conduct customs and border protection (CBP) preclearance operations at Abu Dhabi.
USCBP is also in operation at selected airports in Canada and in the Caribbean as well as in Bermuda.
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Aer Lingus Winter 2013/14
TLS going back year round.
NCL new.
BOS 60% capacity increase.
11 other routes capacity increase.
Latest News > Dublin Airport Welcomes Aer Lingus' Expansion
NCL new.
BOS 60% capacity increase.
11 other routes capacity increase.
Latest News > Dublin Airport Welcomes Aer Lingus' Expansion
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Etihad Boeing 777-300 continuing through winter!
ETIHAD Maintains Boeing 777 Service to Dublin in W13 :: Routesonline
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U.S. Pre-clearance
Re. SecondDog's question on CBP history in Dublin, it originated with a Shannon Airport management initiative to establish U.S. Pre-Inspection (immigration only) at that airport as an enhancement to Shannon's efforts to attract additional tech. transit traffic which was a significant proportion of SNN's business in the 1980s. After much effort on the airport's behalf a trial facility was established in 1986 and a permanent facility opened in 1988. Ironically, given their development of transatlantic transfer traffic at Dublin recently, Aer Lingus initially refused to use the service at Shannon although many other carriers did, including Delta and Pan Am. For competitive reasons Aer Lingus eventually had to use the service but their attitude did much to fuel the feeling that they were actively working to favour their Dublin transatlantic services over Shannon's.
Some years later Dublin, a sister airport of Shannon's in the Aer Rianta group at the time, opened a Pre-inspection facility and, following the consolidation of U.S. Immigration and Customs into Customs and Border Protection post-911, both facilities now offer full Pre-clearance to passengers but Shannon has recently acquired approval to clear corporate aircraft enroute to the U.S. which enables operators to fly direct from SNN to their home towns, even if they're non-gateway airports.
Some years later Dublin, a sister airport of Shannon's in the Aer Rianta group at the time, opened a Pre-inspection facility and, following the consolidation of U.S. Immigration and Customs into Customs and Border Protection post-911, both facilities now offer full Pre-clearance to passengers but Shannon has recently acquired approval to clear corporate aircraft enroute to the U.S. which enables operators to fly direct from SNN to their home towns, even if they're non-gateway airports.
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I think people will find somewhat more balanced background on the CBP at this link:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/new-a....831598?via=mr
Essentially, these are inter-governmental agreements. The arrangement at Shannon was no so much a local management initiative (some folk like to ascribe every good thing at Shannon to local management, and every bad thing to nefarious forces frustrating local management), as central Government negotiating something to placate the Shannon Airport lobby for the loss of the compulsory stopover requirement which had forced all trans-Atlantic services bound for Ireland to stop at the airport, previously relaxed to a requirement to stop for at least one leg. The stopover was an obstacle to the development of trans-Atlantic services; however political requirements required some gesture to mark its passing.
What do you need to get such a facility? Basically, a motivated Government with an effective diplomatic service.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/new-a....831598?via=mr
Essentially, these are inter-governmental agreements. The arrangement at Shannon was no so much a local management initiative (some folk like to ascribe every good thing at Shannon to local management, and every bad thing to nefarious forces frustrating local management), as central Government negotiating something to placate the Shannon Airport lobby for the loss of the compulsory stopover requirement which had forced all trans-Atlantic services bound for Ireland to stop at the airport, previously relaxed to a requirement to stop for at least one leg. The stopover was an obstacle to the development of trans-Atlantic services; however political requirements required some gesture to mark its passing.
What do you need to get such a facility? Basically, a motivated Government with an effective diplomatic service.
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Shannon Airport's initiative (for that's what this was) on acquiring a Pre-inspection facility was years in the planning and pre-dated Open Skies by a long way. Whereas it did require an act of the Oireachtas to permit it's establishment and SNN, as part of a State company, needed to keep the relevant Govt. Department briefed on it's progress, the groundwork/negotiations were done by Shannon's management for the reason mentioned above- to enhance the airport as a technical transit stop.
The Pre-inspection innovation was a continuation of Shannon's recognised ability to adapt to a changing environment in a way very few airports built for early transatlantic aviation have. Airport Duty Free and the Aeroflot fuel farm (1980's) are other examples of SNN's record of world class innovation.
The Pre-inspection innovation was a continuation of Shannon's recognised ability to adapt to a changing environment in a way very few airports built for early transatlantic aviation have. Airport Duty Free and the Aeroflot fuel farm (1980's) are other examples of SNN's record of world class innovation.
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Prior to the introduction of both clearance facilities the media ran stories which presented the initiatives as massive golden nuggets for Shannon. We were told that dozens of executive jets would be landing there every day to avail of the pre customs facility and that pre-immigration would create a hub for airlines from Central Europe and the former Soviet Republics. These would also be filtering hundreds of thousands of passengers every year through the wonderful facility at Shannon. None of this has happened primarily because of advances in technology which have allowed more and more business aircraft and airliners to fly long distances without stopping.
No airline or business jet is going to needlessly stop at Shannon just to avail of pre customs.
No airline or business jet is going to needlessly stop at Shannon just to avail of pre customs.
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Was the same spin not used for T2 in DUB i am sure that we remember all the ppruners confirming that Air India had signed up in all probability to more than likely use T2 as a hub when the time was right.
Infact has any airline actually used DUB T2 pre clearance as in poped in for the sole reason of pre clearing?
Infact has any airline actually used DUB T2 pre clearance as in poped in for the sole reason of pre clearing?