DUBLIN - 2

[stab3.5up]

I believe that DUB is a designated diversion airport for AirFrance in case of emergency with an A380 and that there is provision at end of T2 to accomadate one at an angle with an airbridge to disembark passengers.

[ryan2000]

Does anyone know the minimum Runway lenght for an A380? They don't appear to use much more than other wide bodies at LHR and AMS.

[Aerlingus231]

Less than a 747 anyways IIRC. But it all depends on weight, wind conditions, temperature, obstacle clearance, air pressure and more...

[ryan2000]

Thanks Aerlingus 231, logistics of handling them seems to be more to do with turning them around efficiently rather than airfield performance. Of course taxiway widths are probably a factor but again any airport capable of handling a 777-300 or an advanced A340 should be able to cope.

[DubWannabeNerd]

Aborted Landings Friday 26th

Evening all,

I was on the EI169 from Heathrow on Friday evening and the pilot "discontinued" the landing. He said that there was a plane stopped on the runway and we circled round and landed no problem. About half an hour later as I was leaving the terminal building, another EI plane fly over the terminal low and level so I reckon that they did the same thing. Just wondering if this was just down to the bad weather and landings were being affected? Cant think of any other reason, just thought it was unusual for 2 to happen so soon after each other. Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Aerlingus231]

Yeh, plenty of go-arounds and diversions over the last few days due to the weather. If you know the rough time frame your flight arrived in at you can look up the Dublin Airport archives on liveatc.net for that particular period and listen out for your flight...

[EI-A330-300]

Was passing the airport earlier and what looked like an American Airlines aircraft was surrounded by emergency services. It was around 19.00.

[Una Due Tfc]

Stab

I've always been told the taxiways in Dub are not able to support an A380 and would be crushed! Not enough room for them to turn safely either

[ryan2000]

It'll interesting to see how the A380 manages at SNN tomorrow. Some of the taxiway's there are nor particularly wide.

[confused atco]

I've always been told the taxiways in Dub are not able to support an A380 and would be crushed! Not enough room for them to turn safely either

It'll interesting to see how the A380 manages at SNN tomorrow. Some of the taxiway's there are nor particularly wide

Interesting comment's.

Perhaps some light reading is needed.

Per AIP
Shannon Taxiways are 23M wide.
http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Publ...NN_24-1_en.pdf

Dublin all main taxiways are 23M wide too.
E6 in Dublin is the high speed exit and its 30M wide.

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Publ...DW_24-1_en.pdf

Both airports runways and main taxiways are well capable of handling the A380.

If there is to be any issues it will be on the ramp where the wing tip lines are.

[j636]

Spotted this online earlier.

Dublin Airport Twins with Beijing Airport in Push for China Link :: Routesonline

[DubWannabeNerd]

Thanks

Thanks 321 for the info. A very interesting site!

[j636]

Ryanair to increase checked-in baggage charges - RTÉ News

Ryanair has also announced it will increase the frequency on its five main Ireland-UK routes from October.
The airline says it will add at least one more daily return flight from October 2013 to routes out of Dublin to London Stansted, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh and Bristol.

BHX and MAN now 4 daily
EDI 3 daily
BRS 2 daily down on last winter
STN looks like no change.

[brian_dromey]

Interesting that EI today report that UK routes are weak and FR adds 1000 seats on the same routes. Are FR going to turn the screw on EI now they can no longer own it?

[Aerlingus231]

EI's UK routes from BHD, SNN and ORK are the ones facing lower demand, particularly in BHD against Flybe, their DUB UK routes are performing strongly.

[Jack1985]

EI's UK routes from BHD, SNN and ORK

Sorry what? This is the same airline which is basing a third ATR72 at Cork next Summer for extra seats to the UK, particularly for extra flights to BHX & MAN as well as plans to announce further routes to the UK and apparently we are supposed to accept that Cork is underperforming to the UK because you're waffling?

[Jamie2k9]

Management said it was the London market that has weakened UK performance. Belfast to London and BA extra services at DUB. They expect it to improve with Flybe exiting LGW and BA cutting back at DUB. Overall UK is doing well with regional growth for 2014.

As for the proposed extra FR flights, there winter DUB schedule has a lot of increases and I expect it won't last, we won't know until end of September if they go ahead.

[Hangar6]

Competition

Thank god we consumers have a choice of carriers and they will have decent offers for the winter as well as more seats, how could anyone argue the case for FR takeover of EI !!!!

[fivejuliet]

Another ATR for SNN also next year was the plan

[mart901]

FR won't last at 4x daily into BHX, sure they tried increasing it before and it backfired. They can make richer pickings on other routes and they know it well. They may keep MAN going 4x daily but its most probably just for publicity. They won't cripple yield in their own back yard for more than a season. Come January trying to fill 4x 738, 3x 320 and 2x ATR will be nigh on impossible at any price.