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Originally Posted by stab3.5up
Seems a bit much just for a football game. but wot ever. all xtra flts welcome.
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Why is there an Arkefly flight to Beirut tonight ?
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It happening everyday of late, when the new system went live a few months ago it was a problem but it was sorted but over the last few weeks it contuines to happen.
In other news:
DAA seeking up to 150 redundancies at Dublin Airport - RT News
Seems to be because of lack of traffic in T1.
An problems with a US Airways flight to CLT on Tuesday.
Incident: United B752 over Atlantic on May 8th 2012, engine with its own mind
In other news:
DAA seeking up to 150 redundancies at Dublin Airport - RT News
Seems to be because of lack of traffic in T1.
An problems with a US Airways flight to CLT on Tuesday.
Incident: United B752 over Atlantic on May 8th 2012, engine with its own mind
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Quote from Independent.ie
Nearly a quarter of a century after pulling the plug on its services between Dublin and London Heathrow, British Airways jets will be making a reappearance on the route, probably from the autumn.
It's also likely that British Airways will eventually use its Terminal 5 building at Heathrow for its Dublin service, ditching the much-criticised Terminal 1 at the London airport. That could also pose a fresh challenge for Aer Lingus and other carriers on long-haul routes.
British Airways owner IAG, which also owns Spain's Iberia airline, recently got the all-clear to buy airline BMI from Lufthansa. Former Aer Lingus boss and British Airways chief executive Willie Walsh has previously recognised that BMI, which was once known as British Midland, has a strong brand presence in Ireland and the UK.
However, a spokeswoman for British Airways confirmed that the BMI aircraft currently serving Dublin will be repainted in British Airways livery "in the short term". It's understood that the BMI livery will continue to be used until the end of the summer.
BMI currently operates six daily services between Dublin and Heathrow, while Aer Lingus flies to Heathrow from Dublin about 12 times a day.
Aer Lingus currently has a code-share agreement with British Airways for services between Dublin and Heathrow.
Asked if British Airways will begin using Terminal 5 in Heathrow for its Dublin passengers, the spokeswoman said: "In time that will happen, but there's no immediate plan to do so."
British Airways pulled its Dublin-Heathrow and all Irish routes in March 1991 after 44 years serving the country.
At the time, it held 15pc of the then 1.5 million annual passenger traffic between Dublin and Heathrow. Ironically, the airline had come under pressure after British Midland launched a service in 1988 between the two airports.
At the time, advisors for Ryanair had approached British Airways with a view to the latter taking a stake in the then fledgling Irish carrier.
Mr Walsh has previously said that he intends retaining the service between Dublin and Heathrow after acquiring BMI.
British Airways paid £172m (€211m) for BMI, which was loss-making.
"If British Airways are taking the route over will it be the same frequency and aircraft operating the route as before on BMI ?"
It's also likely that British Airways will eventually use its Terminal 5 building at Heathrow for its Dublin service, ditching the much-criticised Terminal 1 at the London airport. That could also pose a fresh challenge for Aer Lingus and other carriers on long-haul routes.
British Airways owner IAG, which also owns Spain's Iberia airline, recently got the all-clear to buy airline BMI from Lufthansa. Former Aer Lingus boss and British Airways chief executive Willie Walsh has previously recognised that BMI, which was once known as British Midland, has a strong brand presence in Ireland and the UK.
However, a spokeswoman for British Airways confirmed that the BMI aircraft currently serving Dublin will be repainted in British Airways livery "in the short term". It's understood that the BMI livery will continue to be used until the end of the summer.
BMI currently operates six daily services between Dublin and Heathrow, while Aer Lingus flies to Heathrow from Dublin about 12 times a day.
Aer Lingus currently has a code-share agreement with British Airways for services between Dublin and Heathrow.
Asked if British Airways will begin using Terminal 5 in Heathrow for its Dublin passengers, the spokeswoman said: "In time that will happen, but there's no immediate plan to do so."
British Airways pulled its Dublin-Heathrow and all Irish routes in March 1991 after 44 years serving the country.
At the time, it held 15pc of the then 1.5 million annual passenger traffic between Dublin and Heathrow. Ironically, the airline had come under pressure after British Midland launched a service in 1988 between the two airports.
At the time, advisors for Ryanair had approached British Airways with a view to the latter taking a stake in the then fledgling Irish carrier.
Mr Walsh has previously said that he intends retaining the service between Dublin and Heathrow after acquiring BMI.
British Airways paid £172m (€211m) for BMI, which was loss-making.
"If British Airways are taking the route over will it be the same frequency and aircraft operating the route as before on BMI ?"
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Can you add a source please?
Given only three carriers flew the route and on was "British" Midland, were so many Irish reluctant to fly under a Union flag? What's the politics beyond the obvious? How did Midland succeed and BA do so badly against Aer Lingus, given a fair number of the travellers were presumably British?
At the time, it held 15pc of the then 1.5 million annual passenger traffic between Dublin and Heathrow. Ironically, the airline had come under pressure after British Midland launched a service in 1988 between the two airports.
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SkipnessOneEcho; You pose a fair question;
The time that BA pulled out its cost base was nothing like where it is now, it wasnt at all as lean. FR was running a much with its new STN route and fares were low and the tradition of mega fares for EI and BAs cost little cartel were no longer possible. BA hadnt see this type of discounting anywhere else on short haul, well not the extent that FR did and lets remember it would have come through a hard few years, capacity growing enornously, Capital Airlines, Virgin and Ryanair had all had their fight for passenger. BA were popular but the return was marginal.
When Bmi arrived it was what everybody wanted and Aer Lingus was reputed to have been losing £6 per passenger on Dublin London Heathrow.
British Midland arrived 1988 and stole the thunder witha amazing service, 8 departures a day (6 at first) and diamond service with food served on practically every flight, BA were getting challenges on every side. ORK and SNN were axed mid season before DUB in the same year. Some services were on 73S, B11 and interestingly 757!
The last season of BA on DUB LHR they introduced a 0615 departure with BAC1-11 and to date to the best of my knowledge there never were flights leaving for London that early!!
For a time around 1991, (immediately after Gulf war) Dublin went without a link to London Gatwick for a time also
The time that BA pulled out its cost base was nothing like where it is now, it wasnt at all as lean. FR was running a much with its new STN route and fares were low and the tradition of mega fares for EI and BAs cost little cartel were no longer possible. BA hadnt see this type of discounting anywhere else on short haul, well not the extent that FR did and lets remember it would have come through a hard few years, capacity growing enornously, Capital Airlines, Virgin and Ryanair had all had their fight for passenger. BA were popular but the return was marginal.
When Bmi arrived it was what everybody wanted and Aer Lingus was reputed to have been losing £6 per passenger on Dublin London Heathrow.
British Midland arrived 1988 and stole the thunder witha amazing service, 8 departures a day (6 at first) and diamond service with food served on practically every flight, BA were getting challenges on every side. ORK and SNN were axed mid season before DUB in the same year. Some services were on 73S, B11 and interestingly 757!
The last season of BA on DUB LHR they introduced a 0615 departure with BAC1-11 and to date to the best of my knowledge there never were flights leaving for London that early!!
For a time around 1991, (immediately after Gulf war) Dublin went without a link to London Gatwick for a time also
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Despite the public statements, I don't expect the BMI flights to continue in the long-term.
Two reasons for this
- BA can use the slots more profitably.
- Breaking the relationship with Aer Lingus would impact on Cork and Shannon where they wouldn't have an alternate for feeder traffic.
Two reasons for this
- BA can use the slots more profitably.
- Breaking the relationship with Aer Lingus would impact on Cork and Shannon where they wouldn't have an alternate for feeder traffic.
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But surely British Airways have seen how well BMI perform on it's DUB-LHR route and also the BHD-LHR route ? I know that British Airways wants to strengthen it's long haul network with the extra slots but surely they could have room for DUB and BHD ? After all weren't those routes like one of Bmi's best performing ones ? Also if Virgin are to win the extra slots at LHR they said that they would want to start a domestic airline under the Virgin brand. Would some of the routes considered for that be BHD & DUB ?
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Also if BA took over the DUB-LHR route, they could have say 3 services a day but on a bigger aircraft (A321,767,787) ? That way they could still maintain the profitable DUB route but yet still have slots available for expanding it's long haul network out of LHR ?
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Also if BA took over the DUB-LHR route, they could have say 3 services a day but on a bigger aircraft (A321,767,787) ? That way they could still maintain the profitable DUB route but yet still have slots available for expanding it's long haul network out of LHR ?
Also if BA took over the DUB-LHR route, they could have say 3 services a day but on a bigger aircraft (A321,767,787) ? That way they could still maintain the profitable DUB route but yet still have slots available for expanding it's long haul network out of LHR ?
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Dublin Airport fails EU security audit on two grounds - RT News
This follows an audit by the European Commission on the airport's compliance with EU aviation security rules. Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar said aircraft searches, which were suspended 18 months ago, are to be re-introduced.
Passengers transferring through another European airport will have to be re-screened when they land at those airports from Dublin.
Although this does happen at times, it will now be the norm all of the time. The Minister said aviation security had to be "100%".
Minister Varadkar said the move does not impact on other airports in the State.
He visited the airport yesterday after meeting officials from the Dublin Airport Authority.
Mr Vardakar said: "The first matter has been resolved. The other is technical in nature and does not affect passenger screening or baggage handling at the airport.
"Dublin Airport will adopt back-up procedures to address this second matter in the short term, while a longer term solution is implemented, and the security of the airport is maintained."
The DAA said the audits are carried out on a regular basis and it is working with the Department of Transport to resolve the issues.
Passengers transferring through another European airport will have to be re-screened when they land at those airports from Dublin.
Although this does happen at times, it will now be the norm all of the time. The Minister said aviation security had to be "100%".
Minister Varadkar said the move does not impact on other airports in the State.
He visited the airport yesterday after meeting officials from the Dublin Airport Authority.
Mr Vardakar said: "The first matter has been resolved. The other is technical in nature and does not affect passenger screening or baggage handling at the airport.
"Dublin Airport will adopt back-up procedures to address this second matter in the short term, while a longer term solution is implemented, and the security of the airport is maintained."
The DAA said the audits are carried out on a regular basis and it is working with the Department of Transport to resolve the issues.
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DAA say around two months for problems to be fixed and Ryanair have got great millage out of it.
Ryanair Calls For The Break Up Of The Daa Monopoly And The Dept?
Ryanair Calls For The Break Up Of The Daa Monopoly And The Dept?