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Not really surprised by this news but saddened for the people that will lose their jobs (and at Cardiff too).
By co-incidence I was looking to book a MAN - BHD flight only this morning and for the first time in a while, FlyBe were cheaper. Better than that, because they have far more flights, I don't have to get up so early. Come the Winter though I will be flying into BFS with Easyjet as BFS is handier for me at the other end. Basically Baby just handed over their BFS - MAN business to EZY
The irony of the timing of today's announcement is that it co-incides with the re-start of RYR flights to MAN, it's as if WW were saying 'we just can't compete'.
The whole BMI group is (if it isn't already) seriously running the risk of becoming a laughing stock. Their strategy seems to be not to have a strategy, meaning as a regular flyer, I wouldn't trust them being around much longer sadly....also meaning I won't be booking any of their flights.
Their press release even has to stretch the truth about mainline ops at MAN, saying they've started flights to FRA (they haven't, just lent a plane and crew to LH) and they started flying to BSL - this is for Swiss.
By co-incidence I was looking to book a MAN - BHD flight only this morning and for the first time in a while, FlyBe were cheaper. Better than that, because they have far more flights, I don't have to get up so early. Come the Winter though I will be flying into BFS with Easyjet as BFS is handier for me at the other end. Basically Baby just handed over their BFS - MAN business to EZY
The irony of the timing of today's announcement is that it co-incides with the re-start of RYR flights to MAN, it's as if WW were saying 'we just can't compete'.
The whole BMI group is (if it isn't already) seriously running the risk of becoming a laughing stock. Their strategy seems to be not to have a strategy, meaning as a regular flyer, I wouldn't trust them being around much longer sadly....also meaning I won't be booking any of their flights.
Their press release even has to stretch the truth about mainline ops at MAN, saying they've started flights to FRA (they haven't, just lent a plane and crew to LH) and they started flying to BSL - this is for Swiss.
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Their press release even has to stretch the truth about mainline ops at MAN, saying they've started flights to FRA (they haven't, just lent a plane and crew to LH) and they started flying to BSL - this is for Swiss.
Not strictly true, the BSL flights are operated by bmi for bmi in co-op with Swiss! The FRA flts are operated by bmi for LH
Not strictly true, the BSL flights are operated by bmi for bmi in co-op with Swiss! The FRA flts are operated by bmi for LH
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On another note, I've found some approach charts for MAN & LPL and ground charts too I downloaded last year (I think) but I need some more too, are these available on the CAA website? I'm sure it's from there I got them?
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With regards to replacing Knock, what about Aer Lingus. Could route either LGW-NOC-MAN and return or DUB-MAN-NOC and return
Or if Aer Arann took over the route, it could always be as Aer Lingus Regional. Might need an extra aircraft in the franchise deal or something else would have to be cut elsewhere
Another option not mentioned - Ryanair. Would need a w pattern but they are very defensive of their position in Ireland and the idea of a stronger replacement than baby on MAN-NOC might not go down too well. So a pre-emptive move to start the route could always be possible
Or if Aer Arann took over the route, it could always be as Aer Lingus Regional. Might need an extra aircraft in the franchise deal or something else would have to be cut elsewhere
Another option not mentioned - Ryanair. Would need a w pattern but they are very defensive of their position in Ireland and the idea of a stronger replacement than baby on MAN-NOC might not go down too well. So a pre-emptive move to start the route could always be possible
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Totally agree, very sad day for staff at Man and Cwl.
Though really this pulling of bases is nothing new, Ryanair have done this regularly, sometimes even before bases are open and staff recruited for same. Ryanair staff are punted (if they are lucky) from one base to another accross Europe, so no point in demonising Baby
This is the future of avaiton, and it would be unwise to "trust" in any airline, as really they could all pull out in short notice.
Though really this pulling of bases is nothing new, Ryanair have done this regularly, sometimes even before bases are open and staff recruited for same. Ryanair staff are punted (if they are lucky) from one base to another accross Europe, so no point in demonising Baby
This is the future of avaiton, and it would be unwise to "trust" in any airline, as really they could all pull out in short notice.
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On another note, I've found some approach charts for MAN & LPL and ground charts too I downloaded last year (I think) but I need some more too, are these available on the CAA website? I'm sure it's from there I got them?
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Re MAN_NOC
Re your posts re the Man-Noc Flight.
I am sure if there is any money to be made on this route FlyBe would or maybe now will start.
They have everthing already set up at Man.
Lots of A/C Lots of Crew
I am sure with a little adjustment they could squuze a Q400 to Noc and Back.
We await developments
I am sure if there is any money to be made on this route FlyBe would or maybe now will start.
They have everthing already set up at Man.
Lots of A/C Lots of Crew
I am sure with a little adjustment they could squuze a Q400 to Noc and Back.
We await developments
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Air Southwest have confirmed that they are to drop there twice daily Manchester-Bristol service next month.
The airline will continue to operate a once daily Manchester-Newquay-Plymouth service though.
The airline will continue to operate a once daily Manchester-Newquay-Plymouth service though.
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One of those routes that are probably equally convenient by train: possibly a bit cheaper by plane depending on when you book and what time you travel; about the same in time (considering Lulsgate's location); but loses out on frequency.
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Have flybe got dash and embraer based at man as I personally would like to see an embraer on the man noc route if flybe were to take the route. I think a dash would be too much of a downgrade from baby's 737s.
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There is one E195 based at MAN (at the moment) but it is fully utilised on weekdays operating MAN-CDG-MAN-MXP-MAN-CDG-MAN. Of course that doesn't mean that come October there wont be a change to the current set up.
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Surely a downgrade is better than a complete loss of the route.
If Aer Arran/Aer Lingus did start surely they would only be a ATR on the route
I wonder if FlyBe have there eyes on Nqy as ASW now only 1 perday
and it would also tie in with the Based A/C at Nqy (If its got time to do
Nqy/Man/Nqy
if not v/v with a Manchester a/c
we will wait and see
Regards
If Aer Arran/Aer Lingus did start surely they would only be a ATR on the route
I wonder if FlyBe have there eyes on Nqy as ASW now only 1 perday
and it would also tie in with the Based A/C at Nqy (If its got time to do
Nqy/Man/Nqy
if not v/v with a Manchester a/c
we will wait and see
Regards
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One of those routes that are probably equally convenient by train: possibly a bit cheaper by plane depending on when you book and what time you travel; about the same in time (considering Lulsgate's location); but loses out on frequency.
Walk up train fares are £138 return, (33% cheaper with a discount railcard) or even cheaper if booked in advance depending on timings. Checked some air fares for last week of April and they are slightly higher than the walk up train fare
I have to say I'm surprised it lasted this long after the regular direct BRS-MAN trains were reinstated some 18 months ago.
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Parking at MAN
More news from MAN
Reading some of the comments on this story on the MEN website could give you a laugh if you need one....
Manchester Airport in drive to fine motorists who refuse to use drop-off zones | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
Suzeman
Reading some of the comments on this story on the MEN website could give you a laugh if you need one....
Manchester Airport in drive to fine motorists who refuse to use drop-off zones | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
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Be completely anti social like me and do what I have have done for years, carefully park in the residential area of Heald Green and get the train in. Two weeks parking for 80 pence, totally legal bargain !!. Works at Hounslow to 
Not very happy about Greater Manchester Police being used to enforce what is a money making exercise for MAG, genuine congestion and obstruction yes, but just enforcing bye laws because they can - NO.
Not very happy about Greater Manchester Police being used to enforce what is a money making exercise for MAG, genuine congestion and obstruction yes, but just enforcing bye laws because they can - NO.
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It must be a MAG thing - they're doing it at East Midlands too (although there its on private roads and enforced by the parking company and the fine is £100).
Fundamental problem with airports is that airlines demand lower and lower usage fees because passengers want lower and lower fares. So airports have to find other ways of making up their revenue, and thus try to force people into paid car parks
Andy
Fundamental problem with airports is that airlines demand lower and lower usage fees because passengers want lower and lower fares. So airports have to find other ways of making up their revenue, and thus try to force people into paid car parks
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Yes MAG do pay GMP to Police the airport, but in my eyes there is a very distinct line to be drawn between providing a "normal" Police role and revenue collection for a commercial operation, that is not what the Police are for.