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Old 25th Sep 2010, 21:51
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Timimoun is Algerian Gas producing area- ? any NI firms on contract there-
Arrival time is more like medivac than planned executives home coming.
FAI - do base Learjets in Africa according to Wikipedia entry .
Learjet seems best bet.
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 09:53
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FR at BFS

Brought this over from the Ryanair thread were the mods put a stop.

EI-BUD stated that Abertis were showing interest in BCN. FR have big plans for BCN.

Does anyone else think that this may open the doors for a new 'Belfast Base'? and leave the city airport to fester in politics.
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 10:11
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sorry about that post... was on my ipod at the time... i copied and pasted too many tiimes
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 10:18
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I havn't heard anything about FR in discussions with BFS... I have heard of previous discussions earlier this year before the announced BHD pull out which resulted in FR wanting a subsidy for every aircraft they land at BFS, with BFS saying no.... that along with the fact that Abertis and EZY are now on the same page with new routes starting to appear (yes its only 1.. but its the first new one in nearly 2 years?).. if BFS welcomed FR (which wont happen to be honest, unless ) it would damage the recently mended EZY and Abertis relationship.. FR has said enough negative things about BFS and the other way about over the last couple of years..

with both Abertis and FR (although FR more publicly) making negative comments on each other, especially FR in the press.. would they come back on themselves, even though hundreds of thousands read his comments about why no one wants to use an airport in the middle of nowhere
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 10:22
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Went on th BHD website and noticed they had on their avaliable routes map that the do winter sheduled flights to Geneva??? I didnt notice anyone did.. is this a new route or something
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"new routes starting to appear (yes its only 1.. but its the first new one in nearly 2 years?).. "

There are now two routes.

Zürich [begins 19 December; seasonal]
Malta [begins 15 February 2011]
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 10:32
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Zurich as well as Brescia (spelling?) which i think returns are charters and not bookable through EZY

honestly i dont think BFS could support 2 LCCs... unless we somehow find another couple of million passengers?

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Old 26th Sep 2010, 11:43
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If FR were to open routes from BFS Aer Lingus would close there base and either Jet2 or Easyjet would make cuts. Ryanair would also put pressure on Thomson and Thomas Cook also.
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 13:42
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And the above is the exact reason why FR will not be in BFS, why would abertis want to ruin their relationship with EZY after getting it back on track? Also Abertis knows EI is the best shot at a long haul flight and a based wide body aircraft in the future, why eliminate that?
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 19:37
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If FR were to open routes from BFS Aer Lingus would close there base and either Jet2 or Easyjet would make cuts. Ryanair would also put pressure on Thomson and Thomas Cook also.
Belfast has two competing airports, with each airport comes competing airlines. European routes with Aer Lingus, Jet2 and Easyjet, along with the charters. UK domestics with FlyBE, bmibaby, Easyjet etc. City of Derry allow for competition in the North West, on top of this Northern Ireland passengers continue to fly from Dublin.

Northern Ireland is a small, limited market, and in my opinion already has a level of competition to ensure realistic and value-for-money air fares. Competition between EI and EZY on a number of European routes showed that there was room for only one carrier, with EI pulling off many of the said routes.

FR, again in my opinion, will not change this. If they re-enter the Belfast market to compete on European services they will simply replace an existing carrier. The overall benefit for the NI traveller will be limited, maybe a fiver cheaper here or there (if following all the FR rules), or random £5 each way flights (although rumours that these sort of fares are set to end). A huge number of sustainable new destinations direct from NI, I just don't see.

I think that the NI aviation market has reached a level of maturity and an equilibrium established, with the established carriers trying something new now and again. FR going to BFS, or BHD post extension, will not bring travellers here shangri la, as some I think feel. Replacing EZY or EI on a route with FR, I feel would be a step back, rather than progress based on customer service reasons. But a free market economy lets the public decide, though many I feel look at cost solely, rather than value for money or convenience...
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 21:10
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Went on th BHD website and noticed they had on their avaliable routes map that the do winter sheduled flights to Geneva??? I didnt notice anyone did.. is this a new route or something
BE operated BHD to Geneva last winter.
Why do EZY not operate say 2 flights per week throughout the summer as its a region unserved but popular during the summer?
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 21:14
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Geneva was served in the past, during the summer from BFS with EZY. Dropped due to low demand.
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 23:01
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BHD - Geneva is a ski charter bookable through Just Flights. It has operated for the past 3 or 4 years by BMI for the first year and subsequently by Flybe.
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Easyjet have released their (or some of their) summer 2011 flights from Belfast. Haven't had a good look as yet, but Malta being kept on X2 week.

With expected demand to Malaga, Saturday flight on the 9 July already £128 one way!!!
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 18:11
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only part of the schedule, have to wait until all destinations served from BFS have got their schedules released... I see the MLA takes away the CDG flight on tuesdays for summer, they must be hoping its popular.. taking any CDG flights off during summer is crazy as they usually attract near enough full flights since EZY is the only carrier that serves it now
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 19:15
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BEE072Z Southampton 23:35

???

Arival
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 19:54
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Thomas Cook New Route aswell

Minorca [begins 23 May 2011; seasonal]
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 21:16
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Mahon TCX (non based unit) replacing the LS charter that was already on-sale.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 21:32
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Mahon TCX (non based unit) replacing the LS charter that was already on-sale.
So does Jet2 operate both scheduled and charter operations to Mahon or did Thomas Cook etc block book seats on LS scheduled operations.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 21:52
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LS operated both a charter flight on behalf of the Thomas Cook Group, and a seperate scheduled flight for summer 2010.

For summer 2011, LS was to operate a Monday charter (now the TCX flight), and their Friday scheduled flight. LS scheduled flight operates 10 June to 02 September 2011.

TCX flight operates Monday 23 May to 19 September 2011.
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