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ZB Delays?
I've noticed over the last month or so some big ZB delays into MAN on one or two flights a day. Today, 699 seems to be the one that's had the fickle finger of fate and is showing up as expected 7h 15 late.
Is a 321 missing or something?
Is a 321 missing or something?
It seems every one of their departures are deleyed today. My parents were hoping to be on their way to agp 3hrs ago, but still stranded in T1. They're subbing flights out on Thomsonfly, Flightline & Hellas
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Yes they are a A321 down and a A300 down, all on "C" Checks.
Flightline are being used this week to cover for the A321.
The A300 is being covered by a TUI B767-200, but pulled out of today's sub due to TUI's own problems.
An A300 will be out for most of this month.
Flightline are being used this week to cover for the A321.
The A300 is being covered by a TUI B767-200, but pulled out of today's sub due to TUI's own problems.
An A300 will be out for most of this month.
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Monarch operating from GLA. In 2005 or 2006 they had a based A320 for the summer
There has been regular once weekly summer only flights to AGP+/- ALC with the EDI based aircraft, with short series flights to SFB.
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No, not due into service until end of August, delivery mid August.
Mon just not having a good start to the Summer season, with tech issues, just one of those things.
Hopefully all the bad luck has happened in just the one month, did not start well with steps hitting a B757 on the first day down route.
At least ZB don't cancel flights, like other airlines do at the drop of a hat, they may combine or delay flights and will sub in to cover an emergency.
Mon just not having a good start to the Summer season, with tech issues, just one of those things.
Hopefully all the bad luck has happened in just the one month, did not start well with steps hitting a B757 on the first day down route.
At least ZB don't cancel flights, like other airlines do at the drop of a hat, they may combine or delay flights and will sub in to cover an emergency.
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I agree with you SpottyM, if there is a ZB cancellation (one ACE showed up as cancelled last week) there's normally a pretty good reason for it and it always seems to be a last resort cancellation.
I know it's a bit early to start thinking about summer 09 but I'm just wondering whether or not a similar overall ZB/MON schedule as this year can be reliably operated when MONB and NE go off to Fedex, with NC and ND not far from retirement either, and just BS to come (so far) as a replacement.
I know it's a bit early to start thinking about summer 09 but I'm just wondering whether or not a similar overall ZB/MON schedule as this year can be reliably operated when MONB and NE go off to Fedex, with NC and ND not far from retirement either, and just BS to come (so far) as a replacement.
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I would guess that the ZB routes will be about the same, as the B757 are now in charter config only.
I know that all the fleets operate the odd ZB during the summer including A300 and B757s all without the extra leg room seats, but the ZB fleet is the A320/321s.
Only time will tell, but at the moment NC & ND will be around for a year or two yet.
The ACE flight might have been a MON flight and not due to operate just yet.
I know that all the fleets operate the odd ZB during the summer including A300 and B757s all without the extra leg room seats, but the ZB fleet is the A320/321s.
Only time will tell, but at the moment NC & ND will be around for a year or two yet.
The ACE flight might have been a MON flight and not due to operate just yet.
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Err...actually the 757s were modified for the ZB operation to allow extra legroom sales at the front of the aircraft. They used to be in charter config when they were 235 config, then 2 of them got changed to 213 config for ZB before they all went back to 235 and then the decision was made to make them ZB-able again by taking out a row and re-spacing the first 4 rows if memory serves correctly?
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Bromley Tour Operations or Monarchs owners have rebranded the whole company as the Monarch Travel Group.
The package holiday side 'Cosmos' is now called Monarch Holidays and over the next 12 moths will be dramatically adapted to follow the trent set by Jet2Holidays, to take advantage of the scheduled flight operations combined with dynamic packages.
This will spell the end of Monarch Charter at bases such as Manchester and Gatwick as their entire leisure operation will be based on the scheduled network, with the exception of destinations such as Egypt and Florida which will still be generally sold of the 7 or 14 night options.
So interesting times ahead for Monarch, this confirms that all the 757's will be phased out for more of the Airbus variants for the scheduled operations.
The package holiday side 'Cosmos' is now called Monarch Holidays and over the next 12 moths will be dramatically adapted to follow the trent set by Jet2Holidays, to take advantage of the scheduled flight operations combined with dynamic packages.
This will spell the end of Monarch Charter at bases such as Manchester and Gatwick as their entire leisure operation will be based on the scheduled network, with the exception of destinations such as Egypt and Florida which will still be generally sold of the 7 or 14 night options.
So interesting times ahead for Monarch, this confirms that all the 757's will be phased out for more of the Airbus variants for the scheduled operations.
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Does this mean the scheduled market will be grown? ie) MAN-Greek islands etc. or will these remain 7/14 nights?
Also, LPA is not a scheduled destination from MAN - assuming it will become one?
Also, LPA is not a scheduled destination from MAN - assuming it will become one?
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Does this mean the scheduled market will be grown? ie) MAN-Greek islands etc. or will these remain 7/14 nights?
Also, LPA is not a scheduled destination from MAN - assuming it will become one?
Also, LPA is not a scheduled destination from MAN - assuming it will become one?
Not that i'm comparing Jet2 and Monarch, but they are becoming more and more similar. Jet2 offer Herlaklion and Paphos with twice weekly rotations so you can get a good range of 4,5,7,10,11,14 combinations with Jet2Holidays so I am assuming that Monarch will go down that route with the *majority* of its routes. There are always routes which will be dominated by packages rather than seat only sales but personally I expect Monarch in a few years time to be completely scheduled with fully dynamic packages much like Jet2 & Jet2Holidays.
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A320 fan.
I can't work out whether you are being serious or not. Sure COSMOS is changing name but why does that mean the Boeings are going? A lot of charter routes are beyond the 320/321 range. Think you are a bit confused!!
I can't work out whether you are being serious or not. Sure COSMOS is changing name but why does that mean the Boeings are going? A lot of charter routes are beyond the 320/321 range. Think you are a bit confused!!
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It will be a sad day when 4 757's go.
Take MONB, Longtime workhorse since 83, Sadly cannot drive forever, But will be hard to find another MONB.
I bet it could land on PMI's 24 blind. LOL
Like our BYAD, another longtime workhorse, Built 92 And EROPS equiped.
Take MONB, Longtime workhorse since 83, Sadly cannot drive forever, But will be hard to find another MONB.
I bet it could land on PMI's 24 blind. LOL
Like our BYAD, another longtime workhorse, Built 92 And EROPS equiped.
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Yeah 4 75's definitely going and 3 brand new 321s which GB/EZY do not require. Deliveries start in winter i think.
And i've heard the 76 will be dry leased somewhere?
Hell every base has a different rumor. In MAN were definitely getting 2 more 330s and in LGW we're buying out XL!!
Who knows!
And i've heard the 76 will be dry leased somewhere?
Hell every base has a different rumor. In MAN were definitely getting 2 more 330s and in LGW we're buying out XL!!
Who knows!
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