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I thought DUB was being shut because the charterer has managed to consolidate or reduce their capacity this winter due market conditions. Therefore not requiring a Monarch unit again till next summer!!
Nothing really to do with the boss, this one.
Nothing really to do with the boss, this one.
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Not sure about the DUB position but questionable decisions are being made.
I heard today that they had an A300 AOG yesterday and have the same problem today , with I assume the same a/c.
Most companies would have subbed the flight out rather than delay pax 12 hours but this has not happenned.
There is plenty of capacity out there so why inconnvienance your passengers by putting them into Hotel for a meal at LGW rather than getting them to their destination ,DLM yesterday CHQ today? Does not make sense to me and can only assume this is a management directive not to offload for reasons best known to the management. Not the way to treat your clients if you want them back next summer. Anyway my thoughts are with the passengers and the redundant crews in DUB if the previous post is true.
I heard today that they had an A300 AOG yesterday and have the same problem today , with I assume the same a/c.
Most companies would have subbed the flight out rather than delay pax 12 hours but this has not happenned.
There is plenty of capacity out there so why inconnvienance your passengers by putting them into Hotel for a meal at LGW rather than getting them to their destination ,DLM yesterday CHQ today? Does not make sense to me and can only assume this is a management directive not to offload for reasons best known to the management. Not the way to treat your clients if you want them back next summer. Anyway my thoughts are with the passengers and the redundant crews in DUB if the previous post is true.
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Setting personalities aside for a moments - Monarch's "woes" are no greater or less than any other Airline, or indeed Company, operating in the UK today.
The fuel hedge position for this year turned out to be not brilliant (easy to say with 20/20 hindsight) given that the spot price dropped off a cliff. This wasn't forecast so the management, whatever you think of them, acted in accordance with the informed thinking at the time. As did most other Airlines, or at least those who were credit worthy enough to secure hedges. The hedge looks much healthier for next year so the "burden" of last years high fuel prices, which of course effects everyone else too, will wash through the books soon.
Yields are soft, as they are with every Airline in the world, but unlike others Monarch's load factors high, a good sign for customer loyalty and confidence.
In short: hard times but the hatches are being battened down and all parties are throwing in what they can to weather the storm. If anyone chooses to make inferences from a pay cut then they need to make the same inferences of BA, Virgin, Thomas Cook, Thompson (TUI) et al - who have all AGREED their own sacrifices already. To be honest I'd be more concerned by a Co. that wasn't being proactive in maximising its cash position in times like these. Monarch has had 42 years in business and I'd personally bet my mortgage on another 42.
Setting personalities aside for a moments - Monarch's "woes" are no greater or less than any other Airline, or indeed Company, operating in the UK today.
The fuel hedge position for this year turned out to be not brilliant (easy to say with 20/20 hindsight) given that the spot price dropped off a cliff. This wasn't forecast so the management, whatever you think of them, acted in accordance with the informed thinking at the time. As did most other Airlines, or at least those who were credit worthy enough to secure hedges. The hedge looks much healthier for next year so the "burden" of last years high fuel prices, which of course effects everyone else too, will wash through the books soon.
Yields are soft, as they are with every Airline in the world, but unlike others Monarch's load factors high, a good sign for customer loyalty and confidence.
In short: hard times but the hatches are being battened down and all parties are throwing in what they can to weather the storm. If anyone chooses to make inferences from a pay cut then they need to make the same inferences of BA, Virgin, Thomas Cook, Thompson (TUI) et al - who have all AGREED their own sacrifices already. To be honest I'd be more concerned by a Co. that wasn't being proactive in maximising its cash position in times like these. Monarch has had 42 years in business and I'd personally bet my mortgage on another 42.
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The Member, there are currently no AOG aircraft within the Monarch fleet. AB6NS was AOG yesterday and required an MEC change. As for plenty of surplus capacity in the market!! that is true when covering a narrow body, however it cant be said when trying to cover 361 passengers.
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Thanks Im Going In for the update. I am glad the Monarch fleet is now serviceable however as the CHQ passengers have only just left some 8 hours late it still begs the question why no offload.
I would have thought ,if passengers were asked ,that they would prefer to go on a narrow body and get to their destination on schedule than await a wide body aircraft with a 8 to 12 hour delay.
I would have thought ,if passengers were asked ,that they would prefer to go on a narrow body and get to their destination on schedule than await a wide body aircraft with a 8 to 12 hour delay.
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So Member, if you ran an airline you would sub two narrows to cover an 8 hour delay on a widebody aircraft? Good for you. It would be a short management career I'm sure.
' Get your tenners for a fiver here, ten pound notes for a fiver'
I do feel sorry for the pax, but thats aviation.
' Get your tenners for a fiver here, ten pound notes for a fiver'
I do feel sorry for the pax, but thats aviation.
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Non Starter must be 19 years old, so a tribute to all the engineering back up she and the 3 others get, that all A300's fly mostly reliably every year.
If I owned a 20 year old car, would it start and run and then do 50,000 miles per year, every day?
If I owned a 20 year old car, would it start and run and then do 50,000 miles per year, every day?
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Yep the A300 is a trusty work cart for Monarch
i guess we will see it down in Bournemouth in November when hopefully it will operate the usual Bath Travel charter to New York again , albeit via Gander unless its an A330 this year !
i guess we will see it down in Bournemouth in November when hopefully it will operate the usual Bath Travel charter to New York again , albeit via Gander unless its an A330 this year !
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Tight Seat, for the love of god please don’t open up a debate about Monarch Subchartering policy
Logic, reason, common sense and passenger convenience are among the words have yet to reach the lexicon of those clowns in Crawley that make all the decisions.
Logic, reason, common sense and passenger convenience are among the words have yet to reach the lexicon of those clowns in Crawley that make all the decisions.
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Dynamic program management is carried out in Luton not Crawley. Your lack of knowledge on this subject could be interpreted as being analogous of your knowledge of MON customer care.
Dynamic program management is carried out in Luton not Crawley. Your lack of knowledge on this subject could be interpreted as being analogous of your knowledge of MON customer care.