SkyEurope out of bussines`

[Inspecthergadget]

It's very easy to say things like they expanded too quickly when all they did was meet market demand at the time. No one could have forcast that the bankers of the world would have such a devastating impact on the Industry as we know it.

The problem is a global issue and concerns everyone. As an aside, I read on Flight Global that the future of Nippon Cargo Airlines (Japan) is now in doubt as they too seek financial protection with a possible merger with JAL Cargo. But that's another story if anyone would care to comment.

My condolences to all at Sky Europe, i know how it feels to have the rug pulled from under you without you being able to do anything about it.

[Bealzebub]

Are Boeing's sales team proud of this one ?

Why wouldn't they be? The manufacturers sales team are in the business of selling their employers product. That product is handed over once the money is safely in the bank. How that customer then conducts their own business is not a particular concern for them.

[xetroV]

Must be pretty embarrassing to drive one of these around today, although I'm sure our friend mr. Camel will be gloating.

[wiggy]

Please tell me that photo isn't genuine....

[OntimeexceptACARS]

Genuine?

It is genuine. Sorry.

OTEA

[DCS99]

"Byebye Skyeurope"

Yep, photos are genuine.
But not new

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[go-si]

Registered Trademark

Would of thought the "SkyEurope" would have been a registered trade mark, but then again I am not a lawyer.


Such bad taste ....

[Leo Hairy-Camel.]

The good news is that these guys when they join Ryanair will be the best paid pilots in Europe and have the most secure jobs available along with the best terms and conditions.

[Dysag]

Leo

Now I understand why there are two humps, because there are two Camels. Or has Hairy-Camel no1 been killed off?

[45989]

Only comment I would make is the ryr pikey's not too far back in the queue for the knackers yard ( I'm sure the real LHC will get it)
Needless to say it will not be soon enough or undeserved
Who said Hooters was tastless or slightly tacky?

[The Beer Hunter]

Nice People In This Industry

Originally Posted by Reluctant737

to SkyEurope itself... GOOD RIDDANCE.

You really are a class act, aren't you? Bet you fit right in at RYR.

[shaun ryder]

I think he is your standard issue jumped up little prick. A boy in mans clothing no doubt. Full of it.

[captplaystation]

He maybe meant "good riddance" to a company that lived off the backs of its employees for the last 6 mths or more by only paying (late) half salaries, whilst simultaneously throwing lavish parties to welcome new cabin crew to the company, & probably running a fairly dodgy show as they struggled to make ends meet, that is certainly the way I took it, rather than a "good riddance" to a competitor.
Do we really need employers like that anymore than the Ryanair model ? At least the latter make money and will therefore probably survive to continue to offer employment.

[demomonkey]

Leo Hairy-Camel.
Probationary PPRuNer



The good news is that these guys when they join Ryanair will be the best paid pilots in Europe and have the most secure jobs available along with the best terms and conditions.

So Mr LHC, should we take this as formal notice that;

1. You will be offering all SkyEurope staff fulltime contracts on paperwork with Ryanair letterheads? Or will it be temporary contracts via some legal loophole outfit?
2. Does the term "most secure jobs" account for the fact that whilst people might still have a job, they are stood down for long periods at short notice and thus receive no pay?

Sir, I put it to you in the most humble terms that FRs business model only works in an expansionist market, yet the LO-CO model is showing many of the signs of a mature and saturated marketplace. Thus the probability of Ryanair's admittedly phenomenal growth over the past decade continuing looks doubtful. This is further brought into focus when we consider that your substantial cash reserves were built up in part thanks to the resale of new Boeing aircraft rather than bums of seats of Boeing aircraft, a revenue stream now closed to you.

Surely you will dismiss my posting as irrational and refute my points with one of your trademark ill-considered vitriolic diatribes, but for the rest of you go and look at the stock market 3 month trend for EasyJet, Air France-KLM and 'hopeless basket case' BA and compare them to FR. Has someone realised that the Emporer (LHC) is wearing no clothes? The one trick wonder days are over - no wonder you are petrified about your workers wanting industrial representation!

[flash8]

The response wasn't from LHC, note the period at the end of the username.

The Mad Mullah of Mullinger at least has a degree of eloquence sadly lacking in this poster!

[Day_Dreamer]

Well spotted flash8

All I can say is imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Also look at the date of joining !!

To those who carried the burden of Half pay / No pay in the past months in Sky' have my respect for their tenacity and confidence in their employer.
Now whatever contract that they are offered by RYR, is better than no contract at all.

The same old detractors are appearing out of the woodwork whenever RYR is mentioned. A couple are currently missing but time will tell.

RYR is growing and BTS is one of their bases where there is room for expansion, as many foresaw this coming I am sure that plans were already in place to fill the gap left by SkyEurope.
The over capacity vaunted by some in other posts concerning RYR, now seems to be less of a problem, as circumstances have changed again.
As in politics a week is a long time in aviation.

Guy's and Girl's the future is now a brighter shade of Irish green.

Good luck and best wishes to you all.

Real LHC signed on in 2005

[TheBeak]

Now I see why you called yourself day dreamer. What on Earth will Ryanair do the decade a recession doesn't come about. It's quite possible off the back of this dreadful recession. Ryanair rely upon holding an aircraft manufacturer to ransom, when they have no orders, and placing a large order for aircraft, paying peanuts for them and then selling them on for a profit. Hence the reason they ordered 200 aircraft after september 11th and hence the reason they have an order for 300 more now. At the moment depreciation and low houred FOs probably don't feature on their P and L - in fact all contract pilots probably don't, they probably feature in the 'stationary bill'. They are parasites. And painting an aircraft with those titles is ignorant, shameful and a sign of having a metaphorically 'small '. Ryanairs time will come.

[Capt Ted Crilly]

reluctant to fly with you, or am I ?????

Reluctant you muppet,

what a throw away statement from someone who has about as much experience as the virgin mary had.

i work for RYR again having sampled life in the "legacy" world and i have to say I remained humble despite the silver tounge i felt in my anus on a regular basis.

i also flew with SKYEUROPE from BTS-BCN and found them a wonderful bunch to fly with as a pax. I have also meet some of their staff in SEA and again wonderful people.

and for their staff I hope that it all works out for them. they are going throught the college of life at the moment something that i think you probably have never experienced given your (still living at home not tooooo far from mothers apron strings) outlook on life.

I hope our paths cross in STN sometime soon,i am looking out for you BOY!

the only good thing to come out of this mess is that maybe RYR might open a base in BTS and if so sign me up straight away, love the arae, love the people and love the life.


Přeji vám všem hodně štěstí nyní iv budoucnosti, na zdraví

[Night_fr8]

TheBeak

What is wrong with sound business dealings, both with aircraft manufacturers and those supplying services.
All that I can see in your post is the little green man of envy emerging.

If others had struck such good deals in the past the industry would not be in such a sorry state today.
legacy carriers are the dinosaurs of today, as proven by their massive losses with more to be revealed soon.

RYR will be here for some long time yet, and with a growing clientel despite the the rantings on here.
People may not like them but will still fly with them based on the final fare paid, and the convenience to their home.

I recently flew with them ex LPL to CIA a direct flight which was only matched by one other airline out of the Northwest. (Ł120 more expensive)
Aircraft New, clean and tidy.
Departed on schedule on both sectors arriving on time.
Cabin crew were polite and cheerful.

If you had just been made redundant and were offered a life line thrown to you by RYR, dont tell me that you would refuse it.

The people in SkyEurope need a chance to remain employed, with RYR at least they will be paid and on time.

[TheBeak]

No Night fr8, they aren't 'sound business dealings' - they perhaps seem it to you, but they aren't. It all seems like such an obvious thing to do. Well it isn't. It'll see them through to the medium term. Businesses last on relationships - good ones, and Ryanair have just about none. They off everyone they touch.