All BA Staff to take 2 weeks unpaid leave
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"The most striking number in British Airways results for the past year was the £3bn it spent on fuel, which was 44.5% higher than in the previous year.
So for all the talk from Willie Walsh, BA's chief executive, that "the global downturn makes this the harshest trading environment we have ever faced", without the £900m jump in fuel costs the airline would have been very comfortably in profit: operating profits would have been around £700m."
So for all the talk from Willie Walsh, BA's chief executive, that "the global downturn makes this the harshest trading environment we have ever faced", without the £900m jump in fuel costs the airline would have been very comfortably in profit: operating profits would have been around £700m."
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Check facts b4 shooting from yr foot. On May 14th, the Times law reports section reported that the Court of Appeal had decided that employers could take into account length of service when deciding redundancy order.
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Longer-serving workers allowed protection from redundancy - Times Online
I'm not sure I know how to send web links, but I shall try.
Longer-serving workers allowed protection from redundancy - Times Online
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In fact the evidence of BA's revenues is not of a cataclysmic global recession. Passenger revenues rose 3.1% to £7.8bn and cargo revenues were 9.4% higher at £673m. Which is not boom boom, but nor is it financial disaster at 30,000 feet.
What actually caused BA's worst ever loss of £401m before tax and the suspension of the dividend was a lamentable rise in costs: engineering and "other" aircraft costs increased by £59m or 13.1%; landing fees were 14.2% or £75m higher. Even staff costs rose a bit.
So it's difficult to avoid the impression that at least part of BA's agony, its descent in just 12 months from record profits to record losses, was of its own making - though plainly there's a limit to what it can do to hedge itself against the near-collapse in the value of sterling (which pushes up the cost of fuel) and against the volatility in the dollar oil price.
The better news is that BA expects to pay rather less for fuel this year.
What actually caused BA's worst ever loss of £401m before tax and the suspension of the dividend was a lamentable rise in costs: engineering and "other" aircraft costs increased by £59m or 13.1%; landing fees were 14.2% or £75m higher. Even staff costs rose a bit.
So it's difficult to avoid the impression that at least part of BA's agony, its descent in just 12 months from record profits to record losses, was of its own making - though plainly there's a limit to what it can do to hedge itself against the near-collapse in the value of sterling (which pushes up the cost of fuel) and against the volatility in the dollar oil price.
The better news is that BA expects to pay rather less for fuel this year.
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Might be legal in Arizona perhaps, but it sure isn't legal in the UK as the ONLY means of making employees compulsorily redundant.
Employment law in the UK - not rocket science perhaps - but a minefield nevertheless.
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Employment law in the UK - not rocket science perhaps - but a minefield nevertheless.
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"Today, a number of further actions were announced, including:
Cutting winter 09 capacity by four per cent
Grounding up to 16 aircraft
Offering unpaid leave and part-time working to staff — more details will be released on this next week
Setting a deadline of June 30 for ongoing pay and productivity negotiations"
Verbatim from BA staff website!
Cutting winter 09 capacity by four per cent
Grounding up to 16 aircraft
Offering unpaid leave and part-time working to staff — more details will be released on this next week
Setting a deadline of June 30 for ongoing pay and productivity negotiations"
Verbatim from BA staff website!
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Sirwa69,
I can only assume you have acquired an E-Mail to a BA outstation or somewhere similar where this sort of thing can happen.
I have not heard, seen, read, found anything along the line of what you claim. Unpaid leave has been banded about for the last 12 months on a purely voluntary basis. With Voluntary redundancy in the offing I would be very surprised if BA wanted to have half its pilot workforce off over the summer whilst they try and rebuild the financial wreckage.
As to the numbers, LH posted a large loss which runs calendar year thus doesn't include the three months Jan-Mar. Likewise AF/KLM, Singapore etc. BMI is in a terminal state grasping hold of the LH takeover lifeline. Virgin has implemented CC and FC redundancies and, being a private company, doesn't have to release figures but the action speak louder than numbers.
It will be an interesting summer, and a far more interesting winter but this situation is affecting ALL European carriers. It's just a shame that the good 'ol American anti competition laws don't include permanently bankrupt American carriers flying the Atlantic routes for the past 8 years. Level playing field? More like a cliff.
I can only assume you have acquired an E-Mail to a BA outstation or somewhere similar where this sort of thing can happen.
I have not heard, seen, read, found anything along the line of what you claim. Unpaid leave has been banded about for the last 12 months on a purely voluntary basis. With Voluntary redundancy in the offing I would be very surprised if BA wanted to have half its pilot workforce off over the summer whilst they try and rebuild the financial wreckage.
As to the numbers, LH posted a large loss which runs calendar year thus doesn't include the three months Jan-Mar. Likewise AF/KLM, Singapore etc. BMI is in a terminal state grasping hold of the LH takeover lifeline. Virgin has implemented CC and FC redundancies and, being a private company, doesn't have to release figures but the action speak louder than numbers.
It will be an interesting summer, and a far more interesting winter but this situation is affecting ALL European carriers. It's just a shame that the good 'ol American anti competition laws don't include permanently bankrupt American carriers flying the Atlantic routes for the past 8 years. Level playing field? More like a cliff.
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BA had offered 1 months unpaid leave to CSDs and Main crew.
Those who had signed up for 75% or 50% working hours were emailed last week asking if you were offered it in the next 12 months how likely would you be to take it.
I think someone from outside of BA has caught wind of those, then added 2 and 2 and come out with 5.
We havnt been forced to take 2 weeks unpaid leave, personally id do it anyway.... if it stopped willie getting his singlefleet idea and shafting us like he did to our colleagues over in LGW! Those guys work bloody hard and for not a lot of money, I dont want to see tha brought in to LHR
Those who had signed up for 75% or 50% working hours were emailed last week asking if you were offered it in the next 12 months how likely would you be to take it.
I think someone from outside of BA has caught wind of those, then added 2 and 2 and come out with 5.
We havnt been forced to take 2 weeks unpaid leave, personally id do it anyway.... if it stopped willie getting his singlefleet idea and shafting us like he did to our colleagues over in LGW! Those guys work bloody hard and for not a lot of money, I dont want to see tha brought in to LHR
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al446,
Actually, first in last out is NOT illegal. However, the employer using this principal for the purposes of redundancy may NOT mix and match any other arrangements - in other words the system of first in last out MUST be applied accross the board.
It is also worth noting that no employer may fill a position vacated by redundancy for a period 6 months. If there is a need to fill such a position it must first be offered to the person who vacated it.
Actually, first in last out is NOT illegal. However, the employer using this principal for the purposes of redundancy may NOT mix and match any other arrangements - in other words the system of first in last out MUST be applied accross the board.
It is also worth noting that no employer may fill a position vacated by redundancy for a period 6 months. If there is a need to fill such a position it must first be offered to the person who vacated it.
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If there is a need to fill such a position it must first be offered to the person who vacated it.
Anyway it detracts from the original post.
We were asked, at CX, to take voluntary unpaid leave, and were told that it could be made compulsory, but as it can not in other places around the world it would be kept at voluntary. If more was needed later it may well become compulsory. I'd rather have a little unpaid leave than people loose their jobs.
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We are also talking about EU law here - which complicate matters.
The above is quoted in employment law, as it has been for many years.
But, employment laws are diverse and open to 'cheating' by employers who do not apply them fairly and often 'adjust' them to see if they can get an advantage. These circumstances make it advisable for individuals to take advice about their own offers.
The criteria used to select employees for redundacy should be as objective as possible. Consider last in first out (“LIFO”), skills and performance, attendance and disciplinary record, experience and aptitude
But, employment laws are diverse and open to 'cheating' by employers who do not apply them fairly and often 'adjust' them to see if they can get an advantage. These circumstances make it advisable for individuals to take advice about their own offers.
