Ryanair to axe 200 jobs inc pilots and cc
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p.s they're travelling around to these meetings on an empty 737 with a full crew for just three special pax!!!
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just watched de pikey on TV3
737 post#41 is bout as close as it gets to whats going on in reality
Classic. Everyone else's fault
Sell Sell Sell and do it quickly before the music stops!
737 post#41 is bout as close as it gets to whats going on in reality
Classic. Everyone else's fault
Sell Sell Sell and do it quickly before the music stops!
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Telling recession depressed passengers they will have to pay a €30 fine at the gate if they try to carry on a bag of duty free is enough to frighten away 2 million of them anyway.
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And if the Irish government were in any doubt as to MOL's true feelings towards them or what he had in store once he got his dirty little hands on Aer Lingus then he has certainly let the cat out of the hat. His charm offensive could only hold out for so long and now he has shown his true colours again. Blaming this that and everyone else. They are falling on deaf ears. Pull out of Dublin if you like Micko just like you did at SNN and see who cares. There will be someone who will gladly fill the void and can do business in a professional manner.
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The travelling public here haven't really kicked up a fuss about this new tax
neither have they kicked up a fuss that special needs teachers are being hit with cutbacks while the 'top' bankers that helped destroy this country are still being paid bonuses, because not doing so 'would be a breach of contract on behalf of the bank'
neither have they kicked up too much of a fuss about the fact that the government are still insisting that the way out of this is to dig - down.
i think the above quote says less about the stupidity of introducing that tourist tax than it does about the stupidity, ignorance and blind docility of the irish sheep, i mean people.
but can you imagine what would happen if they introduced a 10 euro 'going to the pub' tax? blood in the streets...
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This just proves how important it was that Ryanair did not get control of Aer Lingus and Dublin Airport as well.Unlike Shannon Dublin has different carriers who would fill the gap left by Ryanair.Lets see what routes they pull or reduce on,normally when Ryanair are fighting with an airport they are very keen to show what routes they are going to pull but in this case they are only showing Barcelona 21 - 14,Leeds 19 - 13,Manchester 30 - 23
Seems strange!!!!!!!
Seems strange!!!!!!!
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The managment of Ryanair flew to 4 bases to have pay talks! But now it comes : THEY FLEW TO THESE 4 BASES WITH A RYANAIRS OWN BOEING 737 WITH ONLY 3 MANAGMENT PEOPLE IN IT!!! Route of flight was DUB-NRN-BRE-NYO-ALC
Who is wasting money here??????
Who is wasting money here??????
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It really is the perfect storm for airlines like Ryanair which have committed themselves to large aircraft orders and never considered what would happen if things were to stagnate. Reducing the number of aircraft operating out of bases and closing other bases, one can only wonder what his options are regarding aircraft utilisation.
I'm sure Micko counted on Alitalia going under so he could use 40 or so of his new aircraft there, but that didn't happen.
And neither did he get Aer Lingus - getting them to offload half the A320 fleet back to the lessors and the rest up for sale. No doubt they would have had to buy his 737s at greatly inflated prices that would see Ryanair make huge profits and turn Aer Lingus into an outfit that could never make a profit and subsequently go bust.
Nice try Micko - your subsidies are running out, passengers are not flying, and you have a lot of shiny new airplanes parked up.
Blame everyone else, the government, the passengers, the pilots, but not the anally retentive arrogant and abusive managers that have been believing their own mantra for a little too long now.
I'm sure Micko counted on Alitalia going under so he could use 40 or so of his new aircraft there, but that didn't happen.
And neither did he get Aer Lingus - getting them to offload half the A320 fleet back to the lessors and the rest up for sale. No doubt they would have had to buy his 737s at greatly inflated prices that would see Ryanair make huge profits and turn Aer Lingus into an outfit that could never make a profit and subsequently go bust.
Nice try Micko - your subsidies are running out, passengers are not flying, and you have a lot of shiny new airplanes parked up.
Blame everyone else, the government, the passengers, the pilots, but not the anally retentive arrogant and abusive managers that have been believing their own mantra for a little too long now.
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Third rate airport facitlitities says micko? Third rate because every improvment was challengened by micko. It's delicious irony that mickos downfall is due to his own b*****. BelArgUSA talks sense, history always repeats itself, this has happened before and will happen again. Stupid gob$hite management will always screw up eventually. Finally it happens with ryanair. God help the crew but the game is up. Thankfully I have the rainy day fund. I hope to God those everyone listened to the factualists and had same.
And BTW, spare me the "Camel is a doom merchant BS". The truth always trumps rosehinted 500hr wonder BS.
And BTW, spare me the "Camel is a doom merchant BS". The truth always trumps rosehinted 500hr wonder BS.
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Sorry, but I'm not entirely sure what the problem is here? A good mate of mine based at DUB (flight crew) has already received correspondence regarding being transferred to a different base, so this isn't really an axeing, more a perfectly normal procedure relating to the requirements of a business.
Come on guys, you all signed the contract (as crappy as it is) did you not?
I find it difficult to believe that anybody managed to get all the way through flight training without being told that being an airline pilot is not docile on family life...?
Don't get me wrong, I don't like it, oh no, but it's a bed to sleep in during a nasty storm
Come on guys, you all signed the contract (as crappy as it is) did you not?
I find it difficult to believe that anybody managed to get all the way through flight training without being told that being an airline pilot is not docile on family life...?
Don't get me wrong, I don't like it, oh no, but it's a bed to sleep in during a nasty storm
Reluctant,
You miss the point (slightly). The interest here is not so much on the plight of some pilots who have a mandatory base transfer. What we have here are the first cracks appearing on a business whose model requires growth. The bullying arrogance of the senior management towards employee, customer and airport relies on a position of power (from the promise of growth).
As soon as the growth stops, or even reverses, then many are interested to see how the tide will turn. All that past arrogance may just have been a poor tactic as the pressure mounts from the customers, airports, airframers and possibly (but I doubt it) the workforce.
FR is an important player in the gutter end of the market. Lots are interested to see "what happens next". Other ruthless and arrogant managers have suffered horribly in recessions. Let's see what happens to FR.
You miss the point (slightly). The interest here is not so much on the plight of some pilots who have a mandatory base transfer. What we have here are the first cracks appearing on a business whose model requires growth. The bullying arrogance of the senior management towards employee, customer and airport relies on a position of power (from the promise of growth).
As soon as the growth stops, or even reverses, then many are interested to see how the tide will turn. All that past arrogance may just have been a poor tactic as the pressure mounts from the customers, airports, airframers and possibly (but I doubt it) the workforce.
FR is an important player in the gutter end of the market. Lots are interested to see "what happens next". Other ruthless and arrogant managers have suffered horribly in recessions. Let's see what happens to FR.
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Mmmm...........
O'Leary was spouting on a few weeks ago about creating "1000 jobs at Aer lingus" in Dublin if he took ownership. The lying ****, the truth is now out. If he got Aer Lingus he would have pulled them off all competing routes and allowed them go to ruin.
I don't wish any pilot in FR any misfortune - I've many friends there, both past and present. Through recklessness, greed and arrogance MOL has compromised the future for many of these pilots. Hopefully he will get the shareholders vote of no confidence, soon.
O'Leary was spouting on a few weeks ago about creating "1000 jobs at Aer lingus" in Dublin if he took ownership. The lying ****, the truth is now out. If he got Aer Lingus he would have pulled them off all competing routes and allowed them go to ruin.
I don't wish any pilot in FR any misfortune - I've many friends there, both past and present. Through recklessness, greed and arrogance MOL has compromised the future for many of these pilots. Hopefully he will get the shareholders vote of no confidence, soon.
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Actually what O'Leary said was 1,000 NEW jobs.
That sounds even better, doesn't it!
But I have it on very good authority that his promise of 1,000 jobs was queried by the large shareholders, and he told them "Yes, I will create 1,000 new jobs - after I fire 2,000 old ones".
His promise to 'respect the Unions' was also queried.
To this he responded - "I will respect the unions, until the takeover phase is completed. Then they are out of here".
Everything the guy says is spin. You need to double think him every time.
By the way, he didn't beat around the bush when those questions were asked in private meetings. He was quite bare faced and forthright.
That sounds even better, doesn't it!
But I have it on very good authority that his promise of 1,000 jobs was queried by the large shareholders, and he told them "Yes, I will create 1,000 new jobs - after I fire 2,000 old ones".
His promise to 'respect the Unions' was also queried.
To this he responded - "I will respect the unions, until the takeover phase is completed. Then they are out of here".
Everything the guy says is spin. You need to double think him every time.
By the way, he didn't beat around the bush when those questions were asked in private meetings. He was quite bare faced and forthright.
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What's the odds that the 737 flying around Europe with three passengers will not be included in either the quarterly or end of year figures when it comes to load factors?
Sorry Micko, but methinks the world has woken up to you.
Sorry Micko, but methinks the world has woken up to you.
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Did you know that you can get a train from anywhere in the UK to Dublin.
A fare 1 way from London to Dublin from around £30
Ok so the trip is over 8 hours but you are not charged extra for baggage
No Visa charge on top
A fare 1 way from London to Dublin from around £30
Ok so the trip is over 8 hours but you are not charged extra for baggage
No Visa charge on top
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No Visa charge on top
Unlike Ryanair of course, you can just buy the same tickets for the same service without any service or delivery charge from a competitor's website
