Ryanair to axe 200 jobs inc pilots and cc
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Choo-choo...!
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Well, I dont expect an Irish train to ride the tracks across the Irish Sea...
And to arrive to Waterloo Station in London...
Just the Irish tracks gage, would be a problem, is it...?
Maybe we could send Argentina trains on your tracks to Cork.
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Well, I dont expect an Irish train to ride the tracks across the Irish Sea...
And to arrive to Waterloo Station in London...
Just the Irish tracks gage, would be a problem, is it...?
Maybe we could send Argentina trains on your tracks to Cork.
xxx
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It doesn't actually matter whether you call the company Ryanair or M Mouse Airlines or Virgin or BA.
Every job directly created has a kick effect: if MOL pays his pilots €1 a month and his cabin crew €0.50 a month that is €1.5 in to the economy: 85% of that will go on living. So €11.28 is spread around.
Of that 85% will be spent etc etc.
200 jobs will create, indirectly 170 jobs which, in turn, will create 144 jobs etc etc.
Every job directly created has a kick effect: if MOL pays his pilots €1 a month and his cabin crew €0.50 a month that is €1.5 in to the economy: 85% of that will go on living. So €11.28 is spread around.
Of that 85% will be spent etc etc.
200 jobs will create, indirectly 170 jobs which, in turn, will create 144 jobs etc etc.
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"we will create 1000 jobs and provide value for money to the customer,just hand aer lingus over to us and we'll revolutionise aviation in ireland".what a load of lies and bluster that has proven to have been.
looks like ryanair did need aer lingus MUCH MUCH more than aer lingus needed ryanair.
lies,spin and booll****.i suppose any minute we will have the bold ducksy on here in the guise of the camel,telling us how pulling off routes,closing bases,losing money by the bucket,getting told to f off by airbus,sacking staff and widespread pay and holiday cuts(oh,nearly forgot the management pay freeze,wink,wink.),is to be construed as a great success story,how grateful we should be to mick the mad mullingar mullah and how we should have given aer lingus to ryanair.
interesting to see that the routes being closed down are those served well by aer lingus,looks like ryanair just CANNOT COMPETE,without massive subsidies when push comes to shove.
looks like ryanair did need aer lingus MUCH MUCH more than aer lingus needed ryanair.
lies,spin and booll****.i suppose any minute we will have the bold ducksy on here in the guise of the camel,telling us how pulling off routes,closing bases,losing money by the bucket,getting told to f off by airbus,sacking staff and widespread pay and holiday cuts(oh,nearly forgot the management pay freeze,wink,wink.),is to be construed as a great success story,how grateful we should be to mick the mad mullingar mullah and how we should have given aer lingus to ryanair.
interesting to see that the routes being closed down are those served well by aer lingus,looks like ryanair just CANNOT COMPETE,without massive subsidies when push comes to shove.
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BelArgUSA says For 2009, their plans will change for driving the car, or take the train.
You're obviously not familiar with Europe....oh sorry, USA. Right.
You're obviously not familiar with Europe....oh sorry, USA. Right.
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MOL has ZERO interest in EI as a business enterprise.
EI controls the Irish union, IALPA: if MOL controls EI he has IALPA by the short and curlies.
Now do you understand??
MOL has ZERO interest in EI as a business enterprise.
EI controls the Irish union, IALPA: if MOL controls EI he has IALPA by the short and curlies.
Now do you understand??
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Quick interlude. Dublin-Cork on the intercity train, booked 1 day before travel was 20euro. No surcharges for bags, check-in or payment method. Within Ireland you cannot argue with those prices.
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Dublin-Cork on the intercity train, booked 1 day before travel was 20euro
BelArgUSA says For 2009, their plans will change for driving the car, or take the train.
You're obviously not familiar with Europe....oh sorry, USA. Right.
You're obviously not familiar with Europe....oh sorry, USA. Right.
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i agree with O'Leary re the govt tax. Believe me every penny counts these days and this is certainly not the time to introduce another tax when the general flying public are on their hands and knees. The impact of this tax will not even burst a pimple on the govts bum of debt.
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Going way off topic here, but anyway a return train from dub to cork costs 70 euros. You can fly from Dublin to somewhere cool and interesting in europe for the same price and cheaper. Somewhere in Europe where the cost of living is alot cheaper than cork ie. cheaper accommodation/food etc. oh and the girls are alot hotter than those fatties down in cork 
If you were to offer me a trip to rainy, crappy cork (no offence to anyone from cork
) or somewhere in europe, taking into account the train takes around 5 hours and is more expensive than the flight to europe which shouldnt take more than 2, for a weekend.....well i wouldnt choose cork thats for sure.
If you were to offer me a trip to rainy, crappy cork (no offence to anyone from cork
) or somewhere in europe, taking into account the train takes around 5 hours and is more expensive than the flight to europe which shouldnt take more than 2, for a weekend.....well i wouldnt choose cork thats for sure.
Isn't it interesting that the Grinning Pullover is thinking about getting rid of 600 employees and that thread has so far only elicited 2 replies.
MOL talks about getting shot of 200 employees and here we are almost on the third page, most of it being generated by all the usual hysterics pumping out the usual uninformed bilge.
It really is awfully tiresome.
MOL talks about getting shot of 200 employees and here we are almost on the third page, most of it being generated by all the usual hysterics pumping out the usual uninformed bilge.
It really is awfully tiresome.
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You know what,, its getting depressing on here!
heres my plan, call me selfish but thinking delete PPRUNE from my favorites, check my Rosta and fly when asked and go in sim when asked, come home, bank my 10% reserve in my savings account and bury my head in the sand.
Bored bored bored or anti Ryanair threads weather there true or not it always goes the same way on them, doom and gloom!
when Ryanair go bust if they eventuly do ill see you down the dole office and ill wear a t-shirt saying "THEY TOLD ME SO" on the front.
heres my plan, call me selfish but thinking delete PPRUNE from my favorites, check my Rosta and fly when asked and go in sim when asked, come home, bank my 10% reserve in my savings account and bury my head in the sand.
Bored bored bored or anti Ryanair threads weather there true or not it always goes the same way on them, doom and gloom!
when Ryanair go bust if they eventuly do ill see you down the dole office and ill wear a t-shirt saying "THEY TOLD ME SO" on the front.
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Sorry, but...
It is as depressing to me as it is to all of you...
I am not a "troll"...
But what I fail to understand, is see many of you thinking all is still ok...
And seeing many of you saying "that all will be rosy" in 3 months.
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My only difference with you guys... I know this industry since 40 years ago.
I have never seen airlines getting to such a low point.
It will affect everyone, worldwide, and all air carriers.
xxx
Happy contrails - if you can...
I am not a "troll"...
But what I fail to understand, is see many of you thinking all is still ok...
And seeing many of you saying "that all will be rosy" in 3 months.
xxx
My only difference with you guys... I know this industry since 40 years ago.
I have never seen airlines getting to such a low point.
It will affect everyone, worldwide, and all air carriers.
xxx
Happy contrails - if you can...
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the introduction of a govt tax on travellers is just infantile in the grande scheme of things. So I applaud O'L mouthing off again. Yes it's to his benefit big time if the tax is not introduced but on a macro scale its a ridiculous tax during these hard hard times. What we need now is incentives not disincentives .
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this rubbish discussion is typical pprune these days, its a complete waste of space at the moment. attracts the people with an axe to grind, all bleating about the greater good or it aint like it used to be or showing phoney support for everyone else’s problems.
Lets all just look after number one for the next two years and be honest about it rather than being two faced or worse still, $%1£ stirring. Out.
Lets all just look after number one for the next two years and be honest about it rather than being two faced or worse still, $%1£ stirring. Out.
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As a Dublin based Ryanair pilot I can make the following observations,
I don't think Ryanair even have 200 pilots, cabin crew or engineers of their own in Dublin. Most of the pilots are Brookfield contractors, the cabin crew are mostly Crewlink contractors and I presume engineering is similar.
Most of the contract pilots commute to Dublin from other parts of europe and return home on their last working day each week. So a change of base would be no big deal for most.
The cabin crew are mostly young, single, non irish and and living in rented accomodation in Dublin and therefore have no great ties with Dublin. They can move on just as they moved to Dublin.
Dublin is an engineering base so aircraft will still be maintained in Dublin, therefore engineers will still be needed.
Todays announcement was classic Ryanair spin. Lets announce the axing of 200 jobs that don't exist, blame the government that wouldn't give us Aer Lingus and deflect the sh*t from the real issues (fuel hedging, losses and management incompetence).
While all this is going on DOB, EW and co. are travelling around Europe meeting pilots and threatening all kinds of retribution for management
ups.
regards
737
p.s they're travelling around to these meetings on an empty 737 with a full crew for just three special pax!!!
I don't think Ryanair even have 200 pilots, cabin crew or engineers of their own in Dublin. Most of the pilots are Brookfield contractors, the cabin crew are mostly Crewlink contractors and I presume engineering is similar.
Most of the contract pilots commute to Dublin from other parts of europe and return home on their last working day each week. So a change of base would be no big deal for most.
The cabin crew are mostly young, single, non irish and and living in rented accomodation in Dublin and therefore have no great ties with Dublin. They can move on just as they moved to Dublin.
Dublin is an engineering base so aircraft will still be maintained in Dublin, therefore engineers will still be needed.
Todays announcement was classic Ryanair spin. Lets announce the axing of 200 jobs that don't exist, blame the government that wouldn't give us Aer Lingus and deflect the sh*t from the real issues (fuel hedging, losses and management incompetence).
While all this is going on DOB, EW and co. are travelling around Europe meeting pilots and threatening all kinds of retribution for management
ups. regards
737
p.s they're travelling around to these meetings on an empty 737 with a full crew for just three special pax!!!