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Old 19th Oct 2010, 20:09
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With disregard to safety in the past
Would you like to elaborate on this?
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A pilot I know when he joined the company - he had just finished sim training - and was asked to start right away - without insurance, a contract, line training...

....safety perhaps the wrong word - but they have not done things properly/by the book in the past...

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Does anyone know the EXACT legal relationship ( if any) between Viking AB and Viking Hellas???
From Air Transport News
Viking Hellas is a privately owned airline based in Athens, Greece, and is not directly connected to Viking Airlines other than sharing a similar name. Whilst Viking Hellas Airlines and Viking Airlines have cooperated operationally and commercially they are discreetly owned and managed.
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I am not sure if that news is correct or not but i think they are the same. they use the same logos, now hellas is using the same website to book flights, and (i am not really sure about this) but the share the same operations department.... operations department for viking AB and viking hellas is in Athens

and why hellas a/c was impounded at LGW due to viking AB unpaids fees?

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Viking Hellas is a privately owned airline based in Athens, Greece, and is not directly connected to Viking Airlines other than sharing a similar name. Whilst Viking Hellas Airlines and Viking Airlines have cooperated operationally and commercially they are discreetly owned and managed.

..not directly connected other than a linked web site etc !!!!
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Old 20th Oct 2010, 07:56
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they are discreetly owned and managed.
You can say that again.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 22:04
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Viking Airlines comes back to UK

It appears Viking Airlines is about to making a return in the UK charter market scene. Next summer they are expected to serve Gatwick with : Alicante, Palma, Malaga, Faro, Corfu, Kos, Rhodes, Heraklion, Skiathos, Kefalonia, Kalamata Bourgas, Hurghada, Sharm el Sheikh and possibly Turkish holiday destinations such as Dalaman and Bodrum.

All the flights seem to operate under VKH (Viking Hellas) flight codes.

For the current winter season, they are flying from Gatwick to Egypt and ski resorts (Geneva and Friedrichshafen), with non-based aircraft, if I am not mistaken.
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Old 6th Dec 2010, 21:17
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Shame tour operators won't be betting on this pony again. If they try to run this as a seat only venture, it will have the same success as Viking Airlnes (after the closure of Kiss).

If they are serious about operating out of the UK next year, a rebrand seems inevitable as does a complete disassociation with the usual suspects Wyatt, Meridian.
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 12:38
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Not being gifted with your insight into the market I cant quite understand one or two things, Viking seem to be flying out of LGW (under a Greek flag) without too much trouble, so some one must be doing business with them!

Also a Swedish couts has seen to grant some sort of chapter 11 protection to Viking AB, to get this sort of protection the court must have seen that the Viking managment have some sort of realistic plans to cover their debts.

I wonder how the experts on this forum would have reacted to a summer season when a first you have to deal with the volcanic ash fiasco and then TWO major customers going bust? The whole market is running on thin margins and for a new and small company it was a very tough time.
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Old 26th Jan 2011, 11:42
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We have just booked our summer holiday in Greece for early august 2011 with tour operator Mark Warner Holidays.

I am somewhat concerned that when the flight details came through they were with Viking Hellas into Kalamata!

More grey hairs.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:06
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Mark Warner have an ATOL, so financially you are covered. If Viking do not deliver the flights, you will get your money back. Just make sure you buy a package from Warner (with ATOL receipt). Avoid buying your flight separately. Flight and accommodation should be all on the same invoice to be on the safe side.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:15
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Viking Hellas are operating through MAN normally operating to Athens
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Old 29th Jan 2011, 23:33
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Viking Hellas are operating through MAN normally operating to Athens
Doesn't mean they will operate 'normally' tomorrow ! That's why it is important to buy an ATOL protected package. If you buy seat only from Wyatt Hellas, you would not get your money back in the event that the airline stops flying.

Anyway, why take the risk, when there are plenty UK carriers flying the same routes ?
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 00:23
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you would not get your money back in the event that the airline stops flying.
I think you would if you paid by credit card.
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 03:43
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you would not get your money back in the event that the airline stops flying.
I think you would if you paid by credit card.
Yeah..

that's right
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 10:49
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Even if i did get my money back when they go bust i still wouldn't book with Viking considering the issues they had a few months back.

Never forget XL. Not to be trusted with a goldfish let alone an airline.
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 15:05
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i still wouldn't book with Viking considering the issues they had a few months back.
Agree with you on that.
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 11:04
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Angel Viking rebrands and drops Gatwick base

Viking Hellas changes name and closes Gatwick base - www.travelweekly.co.uk
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 12:18
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Well there's a surprise!

You can change your name as much as you like it's still a flawed operation. What happened to a "bigger and stronger" gatwick operation for 2011?

I wonder what airline Wyatt will destroy next?
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 07:57
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The only tour operators stupid enough to lease seats from any outfit connected to Wyatt will be the likes of Olympic, who were ditched by the legacy carriers (There the ones that pay staff and abide by the ANO)
Whilst I am no fan of Viking, as a former employee of Olympic Holidays I would like to point out that Olympic has always used charter airlines for the bulk of their flying and has never used ´legacy carriers´. Olympic also pay their staff.
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