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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 16:56
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"Can only think they all believe they serve all the region wants"

I suspect it's that they believe they serve all the region is willing to pay for............
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 17:04
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Which would not be correct though ? Airlines should know all about how much we are willing to pay as they charge us more than just about anywhere else !
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 17:05
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Yet we pay some of the highest fares across the board for the privilege of using our local airport... Maybe the airlines are trying to think of ways to get out of serving what the region actually wants... Because we all know what we actually want, and that is point to point EU city routes and more variation, that's always one of the top requests

Look at EZY at NCL and at BRS for comparison... I know January is extremely low demand and prices are very low from everywhere, anyway. But I randomly happened to search BRS-OPO last night... 8.49 for the return flight on 2 days, the rest were 10-15. Granted outbound was 30-50 but that's still mental cheap... I didn't think EZY ever went under 20

EDIT: Damn, beat me by 1 minute Liam!
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 18:35
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I'm with HH - should have paid more attention in the economics lessons, guys. You're not paying for the privilege, your paying to fly from a small, remote, not particularly wealthy market.

Because we all know what we actually want, and that is point to point EU city routes and more variation, that's always one of the top requests
What people say in surveys and how many of them part with the cash to back up their comments is a different matter - if there was money to be made, somebody would be having a go. Spite tends not be a major motivation in airline route selection, despite what I read in this thread
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 19:34
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IMO we are only maybe 5/6 routes short of having a good diverse selection for our size but are we really saying the North East of England is remote ? We know the airlines who serve us make good money in doing so its hardly a good will gesture.
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 19:51
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are we really saying the North East of England is remote ?
YES! how quickly can you get to a competitor airport? Drive for an hour and where do you get to? Compare that to other airports in the top 15 in the UK.

Look at a map, where's Newcastle's catchment area?? Nothing to the North, Carlisle(!) to the West, Teesside to the South (even poorer than Tyne/Wear) and the North Sea to the East.
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 21:47
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I agree im just saying in general the N.E is very much accessible just as much as everwhere else that people from the N.E travel to e.g EDI GLA MAN LPL LBA . The point im making is that if prices were better from here we would get people outside our catchment area using NCL aswell, Its very much catch 22 though
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Old 23rd Apr 2016, 17:06
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SWBKCB was making the point that NCL is a long way from any reasonably sized UK additional population - 100 miles to Leeds, about 120 to Edinburgh (and that on farily grim roads)

NCL is stuck pretty much with the population of the NE - say 2.6 million people. and the socio-economics means it's not a major source/destination for business or first class passengers to a large range of destinations

on the other hand that 2.6 mm is pretty much a captive market for NCL so you can be pretty certain that your prices won't get hammered by someone undercutting (as happens bewteen Luton/Stansted; Man, Liverpool/Leeds. GLA/EDI etc)
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Old 23rd Apr 2016, 18:11
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Thomson summer 2017

Looks like they are continuing to charter in AEA on a Sunday morning
New airline for 2017 is FREEBIRD Mondays to dalaman 0830/0930
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Old 23rd Apr 2016, 19:21
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Thomson are using Freebird for DLM this summer too. Changed from TOM to FHY a few weeks ago.
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Old 24th Apr 2016, 01:23
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What's the protocol if you're booked with a credible English airline and you're switched to some two Bob Turkish mob that you've never heard of? Can you get a refund or are you stuck with them?
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Old 24th Apr 2016, 03:42
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Nope they can change airline and type at any time
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Old 24th Apr 2016, 06:32
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I thought TOM were a British/German airline rather than English?
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Old 24th Apr 2016, 10:42
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Freebird are well established Turkish airline operating for many years with identical service to TOM often on aircraft younger than TOM. They get reasonable reviews and have an excellent safety record.
If there is a change, you are entitled to full refund.
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Old 24th Apr 2016, 13:47
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Nope, we tried to amend a booking for a customer and Thomson Airways wouldn't allow us to amend or cancel as they are within their rights to amend the flight and airline
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Old 24th Apr 2016, 19:37
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You tend to see the negative side of experiences at NCL on here! To balance out I was on EK35 today on stand at 1152(L), I had my bags, picked up my hire car and was driving out of the airport at 1225(L)!!
Great stuff.....
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 07:28
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"I thought TOM were a British/German airline rather than English? "

THOMSON AIRWAYS LIMITED NO: 00444359

Registered in ENGLAND and WALES, head office is in ENGLAND.

So it is an English/Welsh company and not a British Company!!
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 07:35
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They are part of the TUI Group, headquarters in Hanover, Germany.
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 07:43
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Originally Posted by sunshine79 View Post
Nope, we tried to amend a booking for a customer and Thomson Airways wouldn't allow us to amend or cancel as they are within their rights to amend the flight and airline
You are too young to remember the days when in the small print of their brochures tour operators, Thomson, and their predecessor, Skytours, along with most, if not all other tour operators used to list all the carriers they may use, which often included some which no longer even still existed! And then they claused that with a note that they could use anyone else, other than the list provided if they wished.

Compare and contrast the German situation where the carrier you flew on was an integral part of the holiday choice. so much so that when Thomas Cook tried to rebrand Condor, they realised they had made monumental error, and had to backtrack and reinstate the original Condor branding.
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 19:20
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Unfortunately I'm not too young to remember the list of airlines in the back of the brochures, Thomson even listed what aircraft type you would be travelling on. Thomas Cook don't even put flight times in their brochures nowadays.
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