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A380 Trials
The A380 has been penciled in for trials for quite a while, they are waiting for the new reconfigured stand 12 to be completed then the aircraft must do a few days of ground trials to ensure the stand / facilities can cope. i.e. 300 - 400 pax at gate 20 !! (yeah right!), testing baggage handing through terminal and loading onto aircraft, towing & pushback tests etc.....
Stand 32 is the alternative stand for A380 ops, im not sure how things are progressing with that one....
The test aircraft will be an Airbus tester not EK's own.
Stand 32 is the alternative stand for A380 ops, im not sure how things are progressing with that one....
The test aircraft will be an Airbus tester not EK's own.
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Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong but isn't gate 20 a coaching station? If I am correct, then technically, you could fit any size of passenger load through it - althought admitably it might be a slight squeeze.
Perhaps mantug01 was implying that passengers may then be bussed to gate 12 for an A380.
Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong but isn't gate 20 a coaching station? If I am correct, then technically, you could fit any size of passenger load through it - althought admitably it might be a slight squeeze.
Perhaps mantug01 was implying that passengers may then be bussed to gate 12 for an A380.
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One of the 80 stands can take the 380. It nearly did two times because of the snow at LHR recently!
I can just imagine the chaos if one (or two!) turned up and they had to de plane all those punters down one set of steps on the lower deck onto buses!
rgds Dr I
I can just imagine the chaos if one (or two!) turned up and they had to de plane all those punters down one set of steps on the lower deck onto buses!
rgds Dr I
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Manchester Airport - the decline
It is the worst airport I have ever had the displeasure to visit, have the managers ever actually walked around the terminal, nothing works,lifts,escalators are never turned on, constant pre-emtive threatening pa's banging on about how your luggage will be destroyed etc,arriving in the domestic you will threated by the "re-entry is NOT allowed", having put ridiculous automatic triple exit doors which do nothing but hinder your exit with bags, there is still a bloke the other side of the doors ! The place is a disgrace
Well said Nilco, I couldn't agrree more! What until the Millenium was a first class, developing international airport is now little more than a "teminal" in fading decline. I acknowledge that the new security areas are an improvemnet but those apart and having used all three terminals in the last 12 months there is absolutely nothing to commend Manchester Airport to the travelling public. The new airside shopping area in T1 is an incomplete desolate wilderness - the floors are half finished as are the ceilings which reveal a depressing display of pipe work - if it suggested that building/redevelopment work is still ongoing why isn't that evidenced by explanatory notices? I frequently have to connect between T1 & T3 - until 12 months ago that was through an inside passageway - now one is faced with a cold, dismal meander along the outside of those terminals. Then look at the landside facilities - now there are barely none and for those of us who are unfortunate enough to have to wait for arriving passengers we are faced with dirty and worn out coffee bars. What was once promoted as England's Northern Gateway is now best avoided!
Well said Nilco, I couldn't agrree more! What until the Millenium was a first class, developing international airport is now little more than a "teminal" in fading decline. I acknowledge that the new security areas are an improvemnet but those apart and having used all three terminals in the last 12 months there is absolutely nothing to commend Manchester Airport to the travelling public. The new airside shopping area in T1 is an incomplete desolate wilderness - the floors are half finished as are the ceilings which reveal a depressing display of pipe work - if it suggested that building/redevelopment work is still ongoing why isn't that evidenced by explanatory notices? I frequently have to connect between T1 & T3 - until 12 months ago that was through an inside passageway - now one is faced with a cold, dismal meander along the outside of those terminals. Then look at the landside facilities - now there are barely none and for those of us who are unfortunate enough to have to wait for arriving passengers we are faced with dirty and worn out coffee bars. What was once promoted as England's Northern Gateway is now best avoided!
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This is from the BOH thread.........
"The £45million redevelopment project was boosted by an extra £13million cash injection from owners Dorset Airport group"
Make that the Manchester Airport Group whose main emphasis s/b Manchester right ?
..........so thats where all the money is going !
"The £45million redevelopment project was boosted by an extra £13million cash injection from owners Dorset Airport group"
Make that the Manchester Airport Group whose main emphasis s/b Manchester right ?
..........so thats where all the money is going !
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The new re-configured stand 12 once open will be on the only stand on T1 that is fully able to take the A380 size wise. Stand 32 will fit it on, just about but their are a few tweaks that need doing first.
The plans were to park the A380 on stand 12 and bus... yes Bus all the pax to/from the terminal. For outbound pax this would include a nice trip to gate 20 (downstairs overlooking stand 21)
The passengers will be unable to exit B pier and walk over to the new stand as this would invlove them crossing the only road between T1 & T3 as this is being moved to the head of stand. No airbridges were allowed as this costs money!
I totally aggree that you would have to be mental to park an A380 on stand 12 and bus them, but thats the plan! I doubt the business class pax would be pleased with that. No A380 operator would put up with that for long.
The plans were to park the A380 on stand 12 and bus... yes Bus all the pax to/from the terminal. For outbound pax this would include a nice trip to gate 20 (downstairs overlooking stand 21)
The passengers will be unable to exit B pier and walk over to the new stand as this would invlove them crossing the only road between T1 & T3 as this is being moved to the head of stand. No airbridges were allowed as this costs money!
I totally aggree that you would have to be mental to park an A380 on stand 12 and bus them, but thats the plan! I doubt the business class pax would be pleased with that. No A380 operator would put up with that for long.
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I totally agree with you. Until the revamp it was poss to get a pint before security which meant that Mrs446 and I could slope off for a ciggie while avoiding the overpriced "shopping experiences". Now we have to go airside before we have had sufficient nicotine intake or sit in crappy overpriced coffee place with inattentive staff and no atmosphere. I will no doubt take some flack from the health thought squad, so be it. Some other pillock will probably say "Well dont use M/C". I dont usually but I use wherever flights are cheapest, prefer LPL.
I know that pax numbers are far from combarable but managers should go have a look at AMS, they know how to do it.
I know that pax numbers are far from combarable but managers should go have a look at AMS, they know how to do it.
"Well dont use M/C"
Sorry, my mistake I thought this was an aviation forum and the discussion was about MAN. It's the internationally recognised 3 letter code for - Manchester Airport. It's what we use around here.
Sorry to butt in.
Sorry to butt in.
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M/C is a person who presents an event or something along those lines.
MAN, EGGC, Ringway Airport or Manchester International Airport are all names of the airfield that serves destinations across the globe.
Does that settle it?!
Anyway, does anybody know what a/c the main charter carriers will have based at MAN this summer such as MON, TCX and TOM? Thanks.
MAN, EGGC, Ringway Airport or Manchester International Airport are all names of the airfield that serves destinations across the globe.
Does that settle it?!
Anyway, does anybody know what a/c the main charter carriers will have based at MAN this summer such as MON, TCX and TOM? Thanks.
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If the depression gets worse, do you think the aiport would actually consider closing T3 for a time to save costs? It must be very expensive to run with dwindling passenger numbers/loss of BD USA/not much retail etc.
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Below pasted from another thread, isnt this just sweet justice to BA that used the old yield chestnut to move the aircraft to LGW from MAN
"Actually, the BA LGW-JFK loadings are extremely poor, Although the back end seems to sell very well, the front end (Yield end Mr Skipness) struggles to sell at all. Average bookings for first class are about 1 per day, club class averages about 12 seats/day (Config for J class = 48), in other words, about 1/4 full. Just for comparison - the average load in J class for the MAN-JFK was about the same, i.e average of 12/day (config for J class = 24) or about 1/2 full"
"Actually, the BA LGW-JFK loadings are extremely poor, Although the back end seems to sell very well, the front end (Yield end Mr Skipness) struggles to sell at all. Average bookings for first class are about 1 per day, club class averages about 12 seats/day (Config for J class = 48), in other words, about 1/4 full. Just for comparison - the average load in J class for the MAN-JFK was about the same, i.e average of 12/day (config for J class = 24) or about 1/2 full"
Don't panic Mr Mainwaring !!!
The loss of one flight a day ( BMI transat) is hardly reason to close a terminal.
T3 remains pretty busy with Flybe, Easy & Baby the main users & there has been little change to their flights, if anything slightly up.
The loss of one flight a day ( BMI transat) is hardly reason to close a terminal.
T3 remains pretty busy with Flybe, Easy & Baby the main users & there has been little change to their flights, if anything slightly up.
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MAN777,
Do you honestly think Skip will answer this one. You know he wont have anything bad said about BA or any airport in London.....heavens forbid if they ever pulled it
Shyted
Do you honestly think Skip will answer this one. You know he wont have anything bad said about BA or any airport in London.....heavens forbid if they ever pulled it
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Gatwick long haul yields are poor in comparison with Heathrow. They suffer from being so close to Heathrow. I honestly am baffled why BA brought this route back but hey ho. If you really want to know, I reckon they will axe it after the summer as they will also be launching another London-New York connection from LCY. Perhaps it was a slot sitter?
Route for route, when BA transferred traffic from LHR to LGW under Ayling to create the "Hub without the hubbub" concept, the yields dramatically fell as a lot of the traffic at the pointy end stayed at Heathrow and flew with someone else. Hence they were swiftly moved back round the M25 leaving a small fleet of 777s at LGW on leisure routes only.
I was commenting on the fact that in economy LGW-JFK was expensive on the day the chap quoted. The flight will probably still lose money if it sells out all summer unless loads up front pick up.
You need to read my posts more clearly, I am pretty pro Heathrow and BA, but they're far from perfect...... As for long haul outside of Heathrow in the London area, it's a dead duck outside the leisure market. Delta are known to be getting out of LGW as soon as they can secure more slots at LHR leaving only US Airways.
The real truth is that BA wanted out of Manchester. The odd thing is that so many people still care, tis just a business and the competition has MAN pretty well covered where the routes are viable. And for the record, I used to love MAN, not so much now as it's gone downhill a lot in recent years but it's a great part of the world, I used to work there.
Route for route, when BA transferred traffic from LHR to LGW under Ayling to create the "Hub without the hubbub" concept, the yields dramatically fell as a lot of the traffic at the pointy end stayed at Heathrow and flew with someone else. Hence they were swiftly moved back round the M25 leaving a small fleet of 777s at LGW on leisure routes only.
I was commenting on the fact that in economy LGW-JFK was expensive on the day the chap quoted. The flight will probably still lose money if it sells out all summer unless loads up front pick up.
You need to read my posts more clearly, I am pretty pro Heathrow and BA, but they're far from perfect...... As for long haul outside of Heathrow in the London area, it's a dead duck outside the leisure market. Delta are known to be getting out of LGW as soon as they can secure more slots at LHR leaving only US Airways.
The real truth is that BA wanted out of Manchester. The odd thing is that so many people still care, tis just a business and the competition has MAN pretty well covered where the routes are viable. And for the record, I used to love MAN, not so much now as it's gone downhill a lot in recent years but it's a great part of the world, I used to work there.
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Is Gatwick really such a dead duck when it comes to non leisure Long haul its reported on another thread that DL/NW yields and loads have suffered since moving from LGW to LHR and that they are cutting flights from LHR now.