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Must be a slow news day....
AAIB report here: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...BD%2011-13.pdf
AAIB report here: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...BD%2011-13.pdf
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Errr and your posting this because?
They did not almost hit a bridge, that just sounds better. The EGPWS probably shouted sink rate at them. Hardly worthy of the headline leading people to believe they WERE SECONDS FROM CRASHING INTO A BRIDGE.
Every time I go to work we are SECONDS AWAY FROM CRASHING THROUGH THE AIRPORT PERIMETER FENCE AT OVER 200MPH AND SMASHING INTO THE VEHICLES ON THE CROWDED MOTORWAY KILLING HUNDREDS.
They did not almost hit a bridge, that just sounds better. The EGPWS probably shouted sink rate at them. Hardly worthy of the headline leading people to believe they WERE SECONDS FROM CRASHING INTO A BRIDGE.
Every time I go to work we are SECONDS AWAY FROM CRASHING THROUGH THE AIRPORT PERIMETER FENCE AT OVER 200MPH AND SMASHING INTO THE VEHICLES ON THE CROWDED MOTORWAY KILLING HUNDREDS.
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I am surprised that all the Spanish flights out of SOU are ending in September next year and not going to take advantage of the October half term.
Does anyone know if they are stopping them permanently or are there other plans for the jets through the winter months.
Does anyone know if they are stopping them permanently or are there other plans for the jets through the winter months.
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Liverpool Echo published the story first, followed by the BBC and then the DM
JLA passenger jet just missed Runcorn Bridge crash - Liverpool Echo
BBC News - Aircraft landing 'near-miss' over Runcorn Bridge
JLA passenger jet just missed Runcorn Bridge crash - Liverpool Echo
BBC News - Aircraft landing 'near-miss' over Runcorn Bridge
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I am surprised that all the Spanish flights out of SOU are ending in September next year and not going to take advantage of the October half term.
Does anyone know if they are stopping them permanently or are there other plans for the jets through the winter months.
Does anyone know if they are stopping them permanently or are there other plans for the jets through the winter months.
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Winter 2013/4
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Like other routes it is taking a rest this winter - last flight 4-1-14 to 7-2-14 then twice weekly so possibly next year it might well bite the dust.
Week Commencing 20-1-2014.
Do the 175 and 195 crew interchange? For a two-three week period (weekdays) the number of 195's listed to fly (seat-maps and GDS) total 3 out of the fleet of 14 but all eleven 175's are active. The 195 usage does not increase that much either in February and although this has been publicised previously due to the restructuring, is this an earlier than expected and are there two further 175's arriving in this financial year as indicated or have these been deferred?
Out of interest Monday 20 Jan seems to show 11 x 175 (3 @ BHX, 2 @ MAN, INV, 1 @ JER, EDI, GLA & ABZ), 3 x 195 (1 @ BHX, MAN & BHD) and 35 DH8D's, which equals 49 operational aircraft out of 60-64 (some DH8D's are listed in Jethro's as leaving from January as per an earlier post).
I couldn't find any 195's operational at Southampton on 20 Jan although I realise GDS and seat-maps are not the most reliable.
Both EDI's and GLA's 195's seem to leave mid January although one out of the four (operational in December) in total returns to EDI in February. Some bases seem to lose a DH8D for a while (or replace a jet) - the first out BHX-BHD for three weeks (a bit of a surprise), GLA-CWL (gone), BHD-NCL (once daily for good?), SOU-LBA (gone) amongst others.
The period from say 8 Jan to February half-term does see cuts each year (by most UK operators) but needless to say that these are the most significant by flybe thus far.
Like other routes it is taking a rest this winter - last flight 4-1-14 to 7-2-14 then twice weekly so possibly next year it might well bite the dust.
Week Commencing 20-1-2014.
Do the 175 and 195 crew interchange? For a two-three week period (weekdays) the number of 195's listed to fly (seat-maps and GDS) total 3 out of the fleet of 14 but all eleven 175's are active. The 195 usage does not increase that much either in February and although this has been publicised previously due to the restructuring, is this an earlier than expected and are there two further 175's arriving in this financial year as indicated or have these been deferred?
Out of interest Monday 20 Jan seems to show 11 x 175 (3 @ BHX, 2 @ MAN, INV, 1 @ JER, EDI, GLA & ABZ), 3 x 195 (1 @ BHX, MAN & BHD) and 35 DH8D's, which equals 49 operational aircraft out of 60-64 (some DH8D's are listed in Jethro's as leaving from January as per an earlier post).
I couldn't find any 195's operational at Southampton on 20 Jan although I realise GDS and seat-maps are not the most reliable.
Both EDI's and GLA's 195's seem to leave mid January although one out of the four (operational in December) in total returns to EDI in February. Some bases seem to lose a DH8D for a while (or replace a jet) - the first out BHX-BHD for three weeks (a bit of a surprise), GLA-CWL (gone), BHD-NCL (once daily for good?), SOU-LBA (gone) amongst others.
The period from say 8 Jan to February half-term does see cuts each year (by most UK operators) but needless to say that these are the most significant by flybe thus far.
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the Runcorn Br nr miss
There is a proposed second crossing nearby, it is much, much taller, did anyone object, no.
BBC News - Planners approve Mersey Gateway bridge project
stay safe
BBC News - Planners approve Mersey Gateway bridge project
stay safe
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All quiet on the Flybe front? Hope there is good news for the crews and other staff soon. It does not sound like the headline grabbing 60+ routes not covering their costs has led to many being dropped.
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bad bear you might have seen this already but this is the list of the 30 routes to be dropped, of which 14 are summer seasonal. Could be worse but if it's going to stop the cash haemorrage then what's gotta go has gotta go Flybe | Corporate | Media | News archive
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It was already down to 10 a week so a further three flights lost but it is a very late cut. Back to double daily from late March at the moment.
Stuttgart
Due to go from double daily in the week at the end of March but the last morning flight is actually this Friday.
A bit lean the next two weeks but frequencies start to recover early Feb from BHX.
At least the second GLA & EDI 195's are still operating (SOU & BHX) as they were down to be replaced by Q400's in GDS from yesterday but the change is shown again from next Monday - I suppose all subject to change. However the first 175 at each airport has arrived replacing a 195 on SOU and BHX.
The lack of 195's flying this summer seems to be affecting IT flights as well. BHX - Preveza remains bookable but on one site it changes to a Gatwick departure by Monarch and BHX - Almeria seems to have disappeared as well. A real blow to BHX as Preveza sold well last year.
Pete
It was already down to 10 a week so a further three flights lost but it is a very late cut. Back to double daily from late March at the moment.
Stuttgart
Due to go from double daily in the week at the end of March but the last morning flight is actually this Friday.
A bit lean the next two weeks but frequencies start to recover early Feb from BHX.
At least the second GLA & EDI 195's are still operating (SOU & BHX) as they were down to be replaced by Q400's in GDS from yesterday but the change is shown again from next Monday - I suppose all subject to change. However the first 175 at each airport has arrived replacing a 195 on SOU and BHX.
The lack of 195's flying this summer seems to be affecting IT flights as well. BHX - Preveza remains bookable but on one site it changes to a Gatwick departure by Monarch and BHX - Almeria seems to have disappeared as well. A real blow to BHX as Preveza sold well last year.
Pete
Pete - all IT charters have been ditched as part of the restructuring plan. It seems a particularly crazy decision in what is essentially a Monday to Friday operation with some limited scope for flying on Saturdays and Sundays given that the airline is trying to improve crew and aircraft utilisation. However, it's their train set to play with and their decision to make, and for which to be accountable to their shareholders.
Consequently, you won't see any jet charters from any UK airport by Flybe, but might see some rather odd replacements drifting in to take over the bits of flying which remain.
Consequently, you won't see any jet charters from any UK airport by Flybe, but might see some rather odd replacements drifting in to take over the bits of flying which remain.
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Thank you for the information, glad I never booked Preveza.
I am sort of shocked at the wholesale dumping of the IT's but on the other hand not totally surprised as some schedules have actually increased at the weekend this coming summer (BHX - AMS, ABZ, EDI, GLA and NOC).
I assume the booking engine doesn't lie - just six 195's operating this summer.
Pete
Thank you for the information, glad I never booked Preveza.
I am sort of shocked at the wholesale dumping of the IT's but on the other hand not totally surprised as some schedules have actually increased at the weekend this coming summer (BHX - AMS, ABZ, EDI, GLA and NOC).
I assume the booking engine doesn't lie - just six 195's operating this summer.
Pete