FlyBe - 6
In light of the release of the Winter schedule yesterday, I had a quick cast around Flybe.com, and noted the following under "cheap flight destinations":
Prague
Nuremburg
Sofia
....although they don't actually appear in the timetable as far as I can work out.
Also noted that according to the route map, flights from Manston to Edinburgh and Belfast City are still available
and there are no flights from Newquay to Manchester - accuracy not a strong point evidently.
Prague
Nuremburg
Sofia
....although they don't actually appear in the timetable as far as I can work out.
Also noted that according to the route map, flights from Manston to Edinburgh and Belfast City are still available
and there are no flights from Newquay to Manchester - accuracy not a strong point evidently.
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The destinations you have mentioned, along with BUD, WAW and quite a few more are all offered as an AF codeshare, you can book BHX/EXT/MAN/EDI etc-WAW, SOF, NUE etc for one fare travelling via CDG, BE to CDG, AF CDG to final destination. Not cheap though in my experience unless they have reduced the fares in the past few weeks!
As for the route map, well I guess that will be updated in due course. In my experience route maps and timetables are the last thing to be updated, airlines want you to simply book using the constantly updated booking engine. Agreed though, a lack of accuracy on company websites is frustrating
As for the route map, well I guess that will be updated in due course. In my experience route maps and timetables are the last thing to be updated, airlines want you to simply book using the constantly updated booking engine. Agreed though, a lack of accuracy on company websites is frustrating
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Interesting move, clearly, picking up the slack from what BMI Baby left behind. Fingers crossed Flybe can make this work.
I presume this will be crewed by BHX and MAN and/or crews operating maybe GLA / EMA / CDG / EMA / GLA if that sort of thing fits in with the planned schedule.
Didn't see this one coming, but any expansion is good news in these difficult times.
I presume this will be crewed by BHX and MAN and/or crews operating maybe GLA / EMA / CDG / EMA / GLA if that sort of thing fits in with the planned schedule.
Didn't see this one coming, but any expansion is good news in these difficult times.
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I have received an e-mail this morning stating passengers can book BHX - EDI & GLA and if necessary change to EMA once they have released the flights for booking and they are working on bringing the start date forward to early summer.
Also BHX - BHD will see more jets and EMA-BHD doubled.
Is this all possible aircraft and crewing wise?
The 4th and spare 195 at BHX is virtually used every day on various routes and I assume that there would be little problem using this one and I worked out that the requirement was about 60-61 aircraft for the summer schedule with anywhere been 66-70 available (a couple Q400's going and 175's arriving).
Is BHX-AMS likely to be looked at as well?
Pete
Also BHX - BHD will see more jets and EMA-BHD doubled.
Is this all possible aircraft and crewing wise?
The 4th and spare 195 at BHX is virtually used every day on various routes and I assume that there would be little problem using this one and I worked out that the requirement was about 60-61 aircraft for the summer schedule with anywhere been 66-70 available (a couple Q400's going and 175's arriving).
Is BHX-AMS likely to be looked at as well?
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You are correct that other operators removed credit/debit charges
some time ago, however those charges merely changed name and
became 'administration charges'!
Flybe are removing all such charges (small actual card cost still applies),
Easy & Ryanair still apply these profiteering charges.
Even if you are not a flybe fan, credit where credits due old boy!
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You are correct that other operators removed credit/debit charges
some time ago, however those charges merely changed name and
became 'administration charges'!
Flybe are removing all such charges (small actual card cost still applies),
Easy & Ryanair still apply these profiteering charges.
Even if you are not a flybe fan, credit where credits due old boy!
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Ok then, you're cynical.
Of course Flybe will do as you suggest. Passengers don't want to pay card charges for booking a ticket do they. Now they're not.
Passengers wanted more transparent ticket pricing. Now they haven't.
Everybody happy?
Of course Flybe will do as you suggest. Passengers don't want to pay card charges for booking a ticket do they. Now they're not.
Passengers wanted more transparent ticket pricing. Now they haven't.
Everybody happy?
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How much then?
Hi Hampshire Andy
Cynical? - perhaps.
How much do you think it is reasonable to pay (in total) for a 45 min - 1 hour one way flight?
I would suggest £100+
Don't get confused between what you would like to pay and what is reasonable to pay. We all love a bargain but too many of those don't contribute to the bottom line of any airline's balance sheet.
Flybe made a small loss last year and therefore, no matter how it is disguised, didn't charge each of it's passengers enough.
Now that the debit card charge has been removed the fares will have to be increased. No airline can continue to survive in the long term by making a loss.
Cynical? - perhaps.
How much do you think it is reasonable to pay (in total) for a 45 min - 1 hour one way flight?
I would suggest £100+
Don't get confused between what you would like to pay and what is reasonable to pay. We all love a bargain but too many of those don't contribute to the bottom line of any airline's balance sheet.
Flybe made a small loss last year and therefore, no matter how it is disguised, didn't charge each of it's passengers enough.
Now that the debit card charge has been removed the fares will have to be increased. No airline can continue to survive in the long term by making a loss.
£100 huh??
Still don't know how they made a loss!!!
Try
1hr flight £350
1.20 flight £1,000
They are facts, and the guy who paid £350 got pissed off when charged £4 for a sandwich ontop!!
Still don't know how they made a loss!!!
Try
1hr flight £350
1.20 flight £1,000
They are facts, and the guy who paid £350 got pissed off when charged £4 for a sandwich ontop!!
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If everybody paid £350 one way Flybe wouldn't be making a loss! I have never seen a 1hr20 one way flight quoted at £1000, but stand to be corrected.
Perhaps I should have said a lost leader minimum of £100+ one way.
On average, passengers need to pay more. They need to pay enough to allow the carrier to make a profit. If they don't then the carrier goes bust.
Simples
If everybody paid £350 one way Flybe wouldn't be making a loss! I have never seen a 1hr20 one way flight quoted at £1000, but stand to be corrected.
Perhaps I should have said a lost leader minimum of £100+ one way.
On average, passengers need to pay more. They need to pay enough to allow the carrier to make a profit. If they don't then the carrier goes bust.
Simples
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The "charging more per flight" to make a profit may have limited value.
Unfortunatley that does not work when they are in competition from the likes of Easy.
I view Flybe as very expensive, as does a large number of my friends and family, but thats compared to booking a similar £29.99 flight with Easyjet.
Why would I choose to fly with Flybe from Gatwick to Inverness or Aberdeen when I can fly with Easy for more than half the price.
Im not saying its right to charge so little to fly, but at the end of the day for most people it comes down to cost and most will go with the cheaper option, which invariably isnt Flybe.
Just my 2p worth.
Unfortunatley that does not work when they are in competition from the likes of Easy.
I view Flybe as very expensive, as does a large number of my friends and family, but thats compared to booking a similar £29.99 flight with Easyjet.
Why would I choose to fly with Flybe from Gatwick to Inverness or Aberdeen when I can fly with Easy for more than half the price.
Im not saying its right to charge so little to fly, but at the end of the day for most people it comes down to cost and most will go with the cheaper option, which invariably isnt Flybe.
Just my 2p worth.
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As witnessed in Inverness when 30 odd passengers disembark from a 175 and 130 odd from an orange bus!
Regularly.
A major part of Flybe's dosh comes from on board sales, running around with a 60% load factor does not much money make.
Fill the seats up with cheaper tickets, sell more on board.
Regularly.
A major part of Flybe's dosh comes from on board sales, running around with a 60% load factor does not much money make.
Fill the seats up with cheaper tickets, sell more on board.
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But Easyjet have to fill 80% of their airbus just to break even, whereas Flybe doesn't, that is why 130 people get off. Their pricing structure has many steps, i.e. sell X amount of tickets at x price before increasing fairs to the next step. Flybe have 2 steps only but are looking at introducing more steps. The INV -LGW route isn't loss making for the company.
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As witnessed in Inverness when 30 odd passengers disembark from a 175 and 130 odd from an orange bus!