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Geoffstar is not a major airline though, just a tiny [less than 10% of profit]
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Qantas merger???
The only reason Qantas would merge with Garuda is to tap into the fast growing Indoensian domestic market. Garuda has limited international flights and the EU ban wreaks havoc for insurance bills - not too mention garuda's chequered safety record which does not fit the Qantas brand. Not sure this is the right time for Qantas to look at Garuda. Note Indon Govt just announced that it will sell off 40% of Garuda - this is the third or fourth such announcement in the past few years...one day they will do it and with the election next year in Indonesia, my guess is that it will be postponed
MAS - The Malaysians are too nationalistic and will probably only sell a stake to a foreign airline if the current reform program fails
Air NZ - A good fit but comnpetition regulators won't allow it, unkless VB's current foray for trans tasman services is successful
Any US airline - also a good fit but doubt the yanks will not make any decision until next year for this, after elections.
MAS - The Malaysians are too nationalistic and will probably only sell a stake to a foreign airline if the current reform program fails
Air NZ - A good fit but comnpetition regulators won't allow it, unkless VB's current foray for trans tasman services is successful
Any US airline - also a good fit but doubt the yanks will not make any decision until next year for this, after elections.
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Personally I hope they dont merge with Garuda...
Air NZ (Possible, if as you mentioned, it wasnt blocked), Emriates (Unlikely, but would fit nicely), or even if they looked into cargo airlines like Atlas Air....?
Any thoughts on Qantas and Lufthansa?
Air NZ (Possible, if as you mentioned, it wasnt blocked), Emriates (Unlikely, but would fit nicely), or even if they looked into cargo airlines like Atlas Air....?
Any thoughts on Qantas and Lufthansa?
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Lufthansa and Qantas
Lufthansa and Qantas? Not sure. One is star alliance and the other One World. If anything I reckon Lufthansa is trying to expand their airline group through smaller acquisitions. I note Lufthansa has been linked to garuda in the past.
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Ahhhh yes I forgot about that Lufthansa was in the Star Alliance...
Might be abit of a stupid question, but what is the Star Alliance? and One World Alliance,
I know its a group of Airlines "working together" (In a way)
but does it also mean they are mates? or something? (as mate-ly as airlines could be
)
Perhaps Qantas should follow in absorbing smaller airlines... and kicking J*
I highly doubt they can compete with Tiger if Tiger continues expanding and succeeds... (but thats a different issue)
Varig? (Unlikely again, but any hope for Brazil?)
Lan? (In the one world, so perhaps a hope there?)
Continental? (Rather Large, and does fit with the US rumors..., but is supposed to be moving to Star Alliance, if not already... but is supposed to have a huge lawsuit about the Concorde Incident.... so I herd..)
Might be abit of a stupid question, but what is the Star Alliance? and One World Alliance,
I know its a group of Airlines "working together" (In a way)
but does it also mean they are mates? or something? (as mate-ly as airlines could be
)Perhaps Qantas should follow in absorbing smaller airlines... and kicking J*
I highly doubt they can compete with Tiger if Tiger continues expanding and succeeds... (but thats a different issue)
Varig? (Unlikely again, but any hope for Brazil?)
Lan? (In the one world, so perhaps a hope there?)
Continental? (Rather Large, and does fit with the US rumors..., but is supposed to be moving to Star Alliance, if not already... but is supposed to have a huge lawsuit about the Concorde Incident.... so I herd..)
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Virgin Blue/ Etihad...
Also, Rather old news... but
Etihad and Virgin Blue form interline partnership - Low Cost Airline News
what happened there?
Etihad and Virgin Blue form interline partnership - Low Cost Airline News
what happened there?
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Alliances
My reference to alliances was more about the fact that even though there is no loyalty or obligation to buy within alliances, this hasn't stopped mergers in the past (BA/Iberia and tie up with AA) and also the idea of the alliances is that they compliment each other, ie they open up new markets so why wouldn't you first run the comb over an airline in your alliance? You already have a relationship with alliance partners!
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Within an alliance, a lot of operational stuff is already aligned with your partners, so there's less work to be done if you merge with (or even work more closely with) a partner.
Also, the alliances are often said to be the precursors of the true global airlines that will be coming when nationalistic ownership restrictions are lifted. So merging with an alliance partner would simply be fulfilling the alliance's destiny.
Also, the alliances are often said to be the precursors of the true global airlines that will be coming when nationalistic ownership restrictions are lifted. So merging with an alliance partner would simply be fulfilling the alliance's destiny.
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What about AC?
AC have a great N. American sched as well as Europe, S America and Asia well covered........two good sized operations would fit well and compliment each others networks.......
AC have a great N. American sched as well as Europe, S America and Asia well covered........two good sized operations would fit well and compliment each others networks.......
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Qantas Fuel Surcharges
Hi Guys,
Curious question - Fuel Surcharges. On all flights they are obviously high. With Qantas on Round the worlds they are some 800.00 Euro. I'm wondering, does anyone suspect Qantas might reduce their charges in the near future?
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PS. Sorry if I put this in the wrong spot.
Curious question - Fuel Surcharges. On all flights they are obviously high. With Qantas on Round the worlds they are some 800.00 Euro. I'm wondering, does anyone suspect Qantas might reduce their charges in the near future?
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Shamrogue
PS. Sorry if I put this in the wrong spot.
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Perhaps the title needs to be a bit more informative like "Qantas fuel surcharges" rather than just "Qantas".
I'd be surprised if Qantas lowered them. Incidentally, has anyone calculated the actual revenue raised on a typical flight by the surcharge? For example, how much would the total sum of each pax surcharge come to for a SYD-MEL flight?
Then how much would the fuel load for this flight cost?
I'd be surprised if Qantas lowered them. Incidentally, has anyone calculated the actual revenue raised on a typical flight by the surcharge? For example, how much would the total sum of each pax surcharge come to for a SYD-MEL flight?
Then how much would the fuel load for this flight cost?
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Back of the envelope: 767 with 250 pax capacity at 80% LF = 200 pax. AUD26 per pax per sector (incl GST) = AUD4727 net paid to the airline by fuel surcharge.
Now all we need is someone who knows how much fuel is burned on such a flight and how much it costs.
Now all we need is someone who knows how much fuel is burned on such a flight and how much it costs.
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QF / BA Merger off
QF Press release
SYDNEY, 18 December 2008: Qantas Airways Limited (Qantas) and British Airways Plc
(BA) are announcing that after detailed discussions about a potential merger of the
companies, talks have ended.
Despite the potential longer term benefits for Qantas and BA, the airlines have not been
able to come to an agreement over the key terms of the merger, at this time.
Qantas and BA will continue to work together on their joint business between Australia and
the UK and as part of the oneworld alliance.
SYDNEY, 18 December 2008: Qantas Airways Limited (Qantas) and British Airways Plc
(BA) are announcing that after detailed discussions about a potential merger of the
companies, talks have ended.
Despite the potential longer term benefits for Qantas and BA, the airlines have not been
able to come to an agreement over the key terms of the merger, at this time.
Qantas and BA will continue to work together on their joint business between Australia and
the UK and as part of the oneworld alliance.
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More news/link here....................................BA and Qantas merger talks collapse - Times Online
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The BA Jumbo in The Times article looks in bad shape. It's lost the whole of the upper deck, 2 engines and has sprouted some Airbus winglets..... 
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Sounds like a complete cock-up to me. A pathetic piece of negotiation, resulting in bad will all round. Really, heads should roll, but they won't, of course.
BA is on track to become a minor operator in the world, and sadly, it will probably get taken over by a foreign operator within 3 or 4 years.
BA is on track to become a minor operator in the world, and sadly, it will probably get taken over by a foreign operator within 3 or 4 years.
Sounds like the Negotiation of desperation.
Everyone else is acquiring and merging so we must be seen to be doing it.
One has to ask what is BA's offer to customers and why would someone fly them other than anybody else
Crazy as it seems now but could EZY buy BA in 5 years time ?
Current market capitalisations are EZY - £1158M / BA - £1784M.
Everyone else is acquiring and merging so we must be seen to be doing it.
One has to ask what is BA's offer to customers and why would someone fly them other than anybody else
Crazy as it seems now but could EZY buy BA in 5 years time ?
Current market capitalisations are EZY - £1158M / BA - £1784M.
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Qantas shares placed in trading halt
Published: FT February 3 2009 00:53 | Last updated: February 3 2009 00:53
Qantas, the Australian airline, has had its shares placed in a trading hold ahead of a “material announcement in relation to capital management initiatives”.
The company refused to elaborate although the airline’s board is understood to be meeting later on Tuesday to consider new capital management plans.
Qantas, the Australian airline, has had its shares placed in a trading hold ahead of a “material announcement in relation to capital management initiatives”.
The company refused to elaborate although the airline’s board is understood to be meeting later on Tuesday to consider new capital management plans.