Qantas

[L-38]

For Qantas, Their A380 Program Unable to Perform?

A380 - A mistake for Qantas? - Go to

http://www.bnet.com/blog/airline-business/qantas-engine-problems-mean-its-a380s-can-8217t-fly-to-the-us-big-problem/3048

Also

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/12/14/350901/high-thrust-trent-900s-limited-to-75-flight-cycles.html

[skyhawkmatthew]

I don't think it's in any way a 'mistake' - they bought an aircraft which, at the time, and for a couple of years after initial delivery, performed perfectly adequately on their long-range routes to LAX.

I think this issue really has nothing to do with Qantas and their choice to operate the A380: surely you could easily brand this as 'Airbus' mistake' having chosen to power the A380 with the Trent 900, considering this engine is supposed to scale to 80,000+ lbs of thrust (for the 380-900) but can't even supply 72,000 reliably?

[JammedStab]

Originally Posted by skyhawkmatthew

I don't think it's in any way a 'mistake' - they bought an aircraft which, at the time, and for a couple of years after initial delivery, performed perfectly adequately on their long-range routes to LAX.

I think this issue really has nothing to do with Qantas and their choice to operate the A380: surely you could easily brand this as 'Airbus' mistake' having chosen to power the A380 with the Trent 900, considering this engine is supposed to scale to 80,000+ lbs of thrust (for the 380-900) but can't even supply 72,000 reliably?

Seems like the A380 and Airbus were the failure when you read this quote:

"The funny thing is that Qantas didn’t even want the more powerful engines in the first place. It opted for the same ones as Lufthansa and Singapore originally, but then Airbus announced the A380 would weigh 5 tons more than planned. That pushed Qantas to order the higher-thrust engines in order to make the airplane viable on the LA route."

Weight promises not kept. Should have gone for the 747-8.

[skyhawkmatthew]

Did the 748 exist back when QF ordered the A380?
Or was it still the very-much-paper 747-500 and -600 Stretch models?

[alexpdx]

Seems like the A380 and Airbus were the failure when you read this quote:

Seems like the best piece of spin I've read all day

[clareview]

Qantas A380

Do we really have to degenerate into this Boeing versus Airbus debate? Many new airliners experience teething problems in their early years (and of course the 787 is now 3 years late as well) and then move on to great success. To those suggesting Qantas shoudl have gone for the "new" 747 its not even in service yet - will it also have teething troubles?

[ryanboxer]

New Qantas aircraft?

Just on nearmap.com and looking at Sydney Airport YSSY, notice on B2 to the right, qantas has an interesting aircraft.

Anyone shed some light?

[MAN777]

Mapping made up of thousands of images merged together, the aircraft has moved on consecutive images therefore loosing its wings.

[Off Stand]

Could it be this a/c that you saw?

Photos: Boeing 767-381F/ER Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

[Just a spotter]

From ABC News, 5th June 2012

Qantas has shocked the share market with a massive profit downgrade of up to 90 per cent compared with last year's results.

Qantas shares crash on plunging profit outlook - Business (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

JAS

[TSR2]

Obviously the reason for Qantas delaying delivery of 2 A380's by 3 - 4 years and delaying entry into service of the B787-8.