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Facelookbovvered
Obviously you did give a toss about what my friend said as you were having a pop at him for what he apparently said about pilots. That was the reason for my post - to set the facts straight with regard to that, not to defend Globespan that's his job.
£325? Fair enough I'll take a cheque, in due course you can make it out to the RAF Benevolent fund.
Obviously you did give a toss about what my friend said as you were having a pop at him for what he apparently said about pilots. That was the reason for my post - to set the facts straight with regard to that, not to defend Globespan that's his job.
£325? Fair enough I'll take a cheque, in due course you can make it out to the RAF Benevolent fund.
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"sadly like many in Scotland they like someone else to foot the bill"
Your comment is insulting to all us Scots,small mindedness and rude.
Scots contribute vast amounts of Billions to the UK Govenment
You are ignorant and racist...Think before you quote ?
Sadley people like you still come out with the statement you did ,however,there is help at hand.
Classes are run at most collages to help people like you get away from
"Sterotyping"
Failing that get on a flight to Scotland and meet hard working people and ask where their taxes go...
"sadly like many in Scotland they like someone else to foot the bill"
Your comment is insulting to all us Scots,small mindedness and rude.
Scots contribute vast amounts of Billions to the UK Govenment
You are ignorant and racist...Think before you quote ?
Sadley people like you still come out with the statement you did ,however,there is help at hand.
Classes are run at most collages to help people like you get away from
"Sterotyping"
Failing that get on a flight to Scotland and meet hard working people and ask where their taxes go...
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How dour, anyone for tennis? you can keep your money and Alistar Darling, Des Browne, Gordon Brown, even a bright girl like Wendy Alexander needed someone else money, The Scots aren't a race they are British and so am i so no offence there, acutualy i was born North of the Great Glen but regard myself as English having spent more time in the South west, now back to that fine, l think the money should go to the SNP
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Facelookbovvered,
I shall put your comments about scots down to your own plain pig ignorance.
Maybe a wee reminder that Flyglobespan was born out of Couger, a very English company who wanted others to pay its bills. Do they still owe their former pilots money?
I shall put your comments about scots down to your own plain pig ignorance.
Maybe a wee reminder that Flyglobespan was born out of Couger, a very English company who wanted others to pay its bills. Do they still owe their former pilots money?
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See all these people you mentioned - you can actually keep them! I think you might find that the Scots are a race, just like the Irish and the Welsh. We're only called British because of the Union in 1707 - that still doesn't take away the fact that the Scots were and still are a race. Anyway enough of this petty banter - back to aviation.
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Define in terms of RACE, ( as opposed to culture, they are distinct ) what differentiates me as a Scot from my English friends and colleagues.
We are NOT a race, do please get real.
We are NOT a race, do please get real.
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in the eyes of the law english and scots are different races which is why an englishman can be charged with racially abusing a scotsman and vice-versa. There are many publicised cases of this in the press.
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Link please. Now I'm curious as I'm not racially distinct from my colleagues, that's just crap. Just because some old fart judge say so doesn't make it right.
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race 1 (rs)
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
Now lets move back to FlyGlobespan...when will the fine be made public?
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
Now lets move back to FlyGlobespan...when will the fine be made public?
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Last time i checked this is a Flyglobespan forum. We're all British and have our own country identity nd thats that.
Now does anybody know where the a/c are goin 2 be based for W08?
How much of fleet expansion wil there be?
Now does anybody know where the a/c are goin 2 be based for W08?
How much of fleet expansion wil there be?
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Do you really think anyone knows those sorts of details on here. ...?(they certainly didnt the first time you asked a mere 15 posts ago
) ... Lets get summer 08 and court cases out the way first 
) ... Lets get summer 08 and court cases out the way first
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Now does anybody know where the a/c are goin 2 be based for W08?
EDI- 2 B73G
GLA- 3 or 4 B738s (depending on how many they choose to lease out....), 1 B733 until mid January when it is WFU, 1 B752.
MME- 1 B733 until mid January when it is WFU.
B736s are either spare or for the bin. B763s on lease.
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The 600s should be staying for the forseeable future. the 300s are being returned to lessor Feb 09-Mar 09.
Think the Hajj flights will be on the 738 over W08.
Should be some exciting new destinations for S09.
Think the Hajj flights will be on the 738 over W08.
Should be some exciting new destinations for S09.
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Durham Tees Valley base
Do we conclude from the posting from 'Go EDI' that, when the 737-300 is disposed of in January, the MME base will close? Would this be the result of a passenger demand pincer movement from LS at LBA and EZY/LS at NCL?
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Airline firm FlyGlobespan has pleaded guilty to two charges of breaching civil aviation rules after allowing a plane with instrument failure to fly.
The Edinburgh-based firm admitted allowing a flight from Liverpool to New York to take off when engine pressure sensors had failed.
Westminster Magistrates' Court heard the crew had to manually adjust the throttle and use a handbook.
The company said there was never any risk to passengers.
The prosecution was brought by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), which told the court the crew on the previous flight to Liverpool had been informed about the problem.
It is appropriate to send out a message that breaches such as these cannot be tolerated
Judge Timothy Daber
Alison Slater, acting for the CAA, said the sensors that indicate the thrust of each engine had failed.
She said that by declaring the aircraft serviceable to fly later that day, on 28 June, the company had breached safety regulations which require at least one engine pressure indicator to be working for a plane to fly.
Stephen Spence, defending, said the sensors were not universally installed in all aircraft.
He said: "The workload increases, but it increases to what we would submit is an acceptable level and well within the capabilities of the pilot."
He said the crew on board the flight from JFK to Liverpool had managed without incident or mishap to fly the plane for more than six hours after they discovered the fault, before landing successfully at Liverpool.
He said the clearance of the flight to return to New York had arisen because of a misinterpretation of the rules.
He stressed the airline had been under no commercial pressure to continue operating the flight, as there were only 20 passengers on board when it took off.
He added: "I stress that there was never at any stage any question in the minds of anybody of putting people in danger. Two offences arose out of one set of circumstances."
'Enhance safety'
District Judge Timothy Daber, said it was "clear" to him the plane had been capable of working safely and agreed there was no danger to passengers.
He also noted senior members of staff responsible for the breach had been removed.
But he said the sensor was "clearly there for a reason", to enhance the safety of an aircraft.
He said there was a "heavy duty" on airline operators to ensure the minimum equipment list and breaches like this could not be tolerated.
"Therefore, any fine has to be commensurate with the considerable means of the defendant company in this case," he said.
The case was referred to Southwark Crown Court for sentencing.
The Edinburgh-based firm admitted allowing a flight from Liverpool to New York to take off when engine pressure sensors had failed.
Westminster Magistrates' Court heard the crew had to manually adjust the throttle and use a handbook.
The company said there was never any risk to passengers.
The prosecution was brought by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), which told the court the crew on the previous flight to Liverpool had been informed about the problem.
It is appropriate to send out a message that breaches such as these cannot be tolerated
Judge Timothy Daber
Alison Slater, acting for the CAA, said the sensors that indicate the thrust of each engine had failed.
She said that by declaring the aircraft serviceable to fly later that day, on 28 June, the company had breached safety regulations which require at least one engine pressure indicator to be working for a plane to fly.
Stephen Spence, defending, said the sensors were not universally installed in all aircraft.
He said: "The workload increases, but it increases to what we would submit is an acceptable level and well within the capabilities of the pilot."
He said the crew on board the flight from JFK to Liverpool had managed without incident or mishap to fly the plane for more than six hours after they discovered the fault, before landing successfully at Liverpool.
He said the clearance of the flight to return to New York had arisen because of a misinterpretation of the rules.
He stressed the airline had been under no commercial pressure to continue operating the flight, as there were only 20 passengers on board when it took off.
He added: "I stress that there was never at any stage any question in the minds of anybody of putting people in danger. Two offences arose out of one set of circumstances."
'Enhance safety'
District Judge Timothy Daber, said it was "clear" to him the plane had been capable of working safely and agreed there was no danger to passengers.
He also noted senior members of staff responsible for the breach had been removed.
But he said the sensor was "clearly there for a reason", to enhance the safety of an aircraft.
He said there was a "heavy duty" on airline operators to ensure the minimum equipment list and breaches like this could not be tolerated.
"Therefore, any fine has to be commensurate with the considerable means of the defendant company in this case," he said.
The case was referred to Southwark Crown Court for sentencing.
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"Therefore, any fine has to be commensurate with the considerable means of the defendant company in this case," he said
Sounds like a big bill coming Globespans way, perhaps a spell inside a Glasgow jail for the (now departed) employee's would send a clear signal to others
MEL = minimum equipment list, not rocket science or am i missing something?
Sounds like a big bill coming Globespans way, perhaps a spell inside a Glasgow jail for the (now departed) employee's would send a clear signal to others
MEL = minimum equipment list, not rocket science or am i missing something?
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dont just pass the buck except it as well
INKJET
Sounds like a big bill coming Globespans way, perhaps a spell inside a Glasgow jail for the (now departed) employee's would send a clear signal to others..
Agreed; but some that are still there need a night is a Glasgow jail to.
Deep pockets are required for the outcome,who is going to suffer.
staff, passengers,suppliers.
Sounds like a big bill coming Globespans way, perhaps a spell inside a Glasgow jail for the (now departed) employee's would send a clear signal to others..
Agreed; but some that are still there need a night is a Glasgow jail to.
Deep pockets are required for the outcome,who is going to suffer.
staff, passengers,suppliers.