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Old 25th Aug 2007, 14:48
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Cork to Birmingham the long way

Could anyone solve two mysteries for me? I fly regurlarly between BHX & Dub and return. The flight time is usually about 55 mins DUB-BHX. Yesterday I flew from Cork to BHX and the flight routed up to Dublin then across to Holyhead and down to BHX. The flight time was still 55 mins. My thinking is that it should be longer? This is the second time this has happened to me on a flight ORK-BHX.

Another mystery is why do they route this way on ORK-BHX whereas when we flew BHX-ORK we routed via South Wales?
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Each route, e.g. BHX-ORK, gets a number of actual routings, and a specific flight on a specific day will be assigned one of those. That would explain why the route varied.

I'm surprised DUB-BHX normally takes you 55 minutes: the block time* is only 1 hour. Moreover, DUB-EDI is as the crow flies longer than DUB-BHX, at around 182nm verses 174nm, and I've done that route in less than 35 minutes. Additionally, DUB-BRS is a few nm longer than BHX, and I've also done that route in under 35 minutes.

* Which includes the flight time, taxi time at both airports, and time for short delays.
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Cork-Birmingham via Strumble has always been problematic for airlines although strangely when Thompsonfly operated from ORK-CVT in 2004/5 they always got that route.
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Old 25th Aug 2007, 17:39
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I thought the STU routing generally led into Class G airspace so was not permitted in the SOPs of certain airlines, in particular after one came pretty close to a glider about ten years ago.
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JDB, that sounds about right, only a few airlines use the STU - BCN - direct GROVE/HON for Birmingham route.

I have heard flights been offered this route but have declined due to it taking them outside CAS, instead taking the long way around via Compton & Daventry VOR's. The alternative route is as mentioned, across North Wales & then south.

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Old 27th Aug 2007, 18:01
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I suggest reading the blog post here:
http://corkairportfanatics.wordpress...-to-the-skies/

It explains a lot and is part of the main site corkairportfanatics.com
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