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EMA is a transatlantic airport.
Please don't forget the amount of cargo flights that operated at EMA. This will no doubt increase when dhl further expand.
Cargo employs lots of people at EMA
cs
Please don't forget the amount of cargo flights that operated at EMA. This will no doubt increase when dhl further expand.
Cargo employs lots of people at EMA
cs
So we have had Ema operating for 50 years, there has been nothing i have seen on the website no extra routes to commemorate it. We are lagging behind, when Mag took over it was stated then that we (Ema) would have transatlantic flights within 5 years it must be about 10 years since that statement, Bhx are flying to Usa again, and China, and what have we got and what do the public see us as a low cost scheduled airport, get your finger out Ema and get some worldwide routes, are we going to compete with Bhx? or just sit back and watch the world go by
I wouldn't count that as some sort of failure, or sitting back and watching the world go by.
Passengers are a different story. EMA has been unsuccessful in offering a meaningful level of service (routes and frequency) to principal European destinations; principally because of it's big neighbour down the M42 which already has the main alliances operating multi daily services to many (though some at BHX would say still too few) destinations. The East Midlands as a region is probably too small to attract this level of business, especially when the surface infrastructure makes travel easy enough to BHX from much of the region. This has left EMA to find a niche as a major centre for leisure travel. EMA last year offered more seat to Malaga, for example, than were available from BHX!
Scheduled long haul passenger business is likely to remain a pipe dream, again because of BHX; and probably also because of the policies of EMA's owner, MAG, which concentrates on getting long haul passenger schedules to Manchester - which has already evolved into the UK's major gateway outside of London.
Usually in life (and business) we have to be realistic and live with what we have, and play to our strengths. EMA is no exception in that.
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The Canaries and Med holiday routes are well covered at EMA. It is often the best/cheapest Midlands/Yorkshire departure airport for flights to and from any of these type of destinations in or out of peak season.
The way I see it expanding now would be to try and attract more business from Eastern Europe. We have a few Polish options but Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania, Bulgaria and the Baltics all have routes that could work from here. Could Wizz venture up the M1?
Could FR add Tallinn, Bucharest, Podgorica, Plovdiv and fill the seats? I think maybe..
The way I see it expanding now would be to try and attract more business from Eastern Europe. We have a few Polish options but Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania, Bulgaria and the Baltics all have routes that could work from here. Could Wizz venture up the M1?
Could FR add Tallinn, Bucharest, Podgorica, Plovdiv and fill the seats? I think maybe..
258,386 pax used the airport in March, 16% more than the same month last year.
This year it fell in early April (Sun 05). With school hols likely to start previous week a significant number of holidaymakers would depart in March. Last year it was late April (Sun 20). Given how late it was schools probably finished a fortnight before putting the whole of the holiday period in April.
The way I see it expanding now would be to try and attract more business from Eastern Europe. We have a few Polish options but Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Romania, Bulgaria and the Baltics all have routes that could work from here. Could Wizz venture up the M1?
Despite UKIP's protestations there aren't that many Romanians in UK, so I can't see the likes of Bucharest, Timisoira and Cluj working outside the magnet that is London. It's important to remember that to many non Brits. the UK is London, and London is the UK!
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Spot on
For much of Europe London is the magnet that pull's people in, its shopping, attractions, sight seeing is unequalled anywhere else so its little surprise that EMA has to rely on largely outbound traffic, Gatwick will have around 80+ based easyJet aircraft this summer, 6 flights a day to Geneva, Norwegian have 5 a day to ARN/CPH/OSL EMA is doing well, very well, but its only a short step to a melt down if an operator up capacity at BHX or departs EMA for richer pickings, Monarch gone, Baby's gone, yes FR are up.........so keep doing what you do best and forget long haul concentrate on cargo and bucket & Spades and the Poles
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No idea but my guess would be NPAS as they are planning (as per public news reports a few months ago) on moving to EMA with 1 helicopter and 4 fixed-wing
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Hangar 29
There is a comment on the Jet2 thread of a rumour regarding the possibility of a new maintenance base. Could this be linked with hangar 29's availability?
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Summer 2016
LS to base 4x 738's and 2x 733's at EMA next summer (compared to 3 and 3 this summer) plus a 733 flying in from ALC. 2 new routes to Kefalonia and Verona.
TOM have quite an increased programme although I can't make head or tail of their schedules for 2016. 2 new routes to Kefalonia and Pula.
TCX is same old same old, but at least no reduction. No new routes.
Hopefully FR will add a bit more to it's already fairly large EMA base (hopefully more in the way of city/less seasonal routes), though I'd prefer they went back to say 7 or 8 aircraft and flew more sectors in from other bases across Europe. 9 aircraft is quite a lot for an airport the size of EMA and it would take some of the pressure off the early morning period, better spreading flights throughout the day.
Not expecting much from BE but that will probably be a long way off as they haven't even released their winter schedules yet.
So far things look a bit better for 2016 after what seems a slightly disappointing 2015 for EMA.
TOM have quite an increased programme although I can't make head or tail of their schedules for 2016. 2 new routes to Kefalonia and Pula.
TCX is same old same old, but at least no reduction. No new routes.
Hopefully FR will add a bit more to it's already fairly large EMA base (hopefully more in the way of city/less seasonal routes), though I'd prefer they went back to say 7 or 8 aircraft and flew more sectors in from other bases across Europe. 9 aircraft is quite a lot for an airport the size of EMA and it would take some of the pressure off the early morning period, better spreading flights throughout the day.
Not expecting much from BE but that will probably be a long way off as they haven't even released their winter schedules yet.
So far things look a bit better for 2016 after what seems a slightly disappointing 2015 for EMA.
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Ryanair flight to EMA stuck in Limoges as no fuel available
FR1633 due to depart 16.00hrs French time for EMA, all boarded but flight deck advise they cannot depart as there is no fuel at Limoges. Pax told that they are negotiating for a shorter routing or a diversion on route for a top up!
You couldn't make it up
Watch this space ,delay is now 90 mins, and prepare for a long delay if you are due away on 9407/9185 to Ibiza/Alicante tonight as this ac is due out on one of those flights
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You couldn't make it up
Watch this space ,delay is now 90 mins, and prepare for a long delay if you are due away on 9407/9185 to Ibiza/Alicante tonight as this ac is due out on one of those flights
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Limoges problem
I understand there was a fuel drivers strike that prevented a top up. Pax sat on aircraft as pilot tried negotiating a quick re-routing but it took 90 minutes,sitting in a full aircraft at 29C before they got away. Compliments to the captain who kept everyone informed and even opened up the flight deck to visitors whilst awaiting the new route, shame all the cold drinks were now very warm. They finally arrived at EMA 95 minutes late- not sure what fuel level was when it arrived on stand (?)
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Ryanair website shows delay due to Belgian ATC strike...!!!
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Ryanair website shows delay due to Belgian ATC strike...!!!
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Aer Lingus/Stobart
It looks as if DUB-EMA is to be dropped after the Winter schedule. The last flight appears to be on 26/3/16.
If this is correct it comes as no surprise, as I hear the pax loads to date have been abysmal.
This has been a prime example of how not to try to compete with an airline (in this case FR) already established on a route. Very little advertising, poor scheduling, frequency reductions from the outset and then they potentially dilute their loads even further (and also those from LBA) by introducing flights from DSA.
I must say it does make you wonder why they even thought they could compete with FR on this route in the first place?
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If this is correct it comes as no surprise, as I hear the pax loads to date have been abysmal.
This has been a prime example of how not to try to compete with an airline (in this case FR) already established on a route. Very little advertising, poor scheduling, frequency reductions from the outset and then they potentially dilute their loads even further (and also those from LBA) by introducing flights from DSA.
I must say it does make you wonder why they even thought they could compete with FR on this route in the first place?
Balair