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The few times I used the BMI Regional Embraer from BRS in 2010, I would say those LF's are about right.... or a little high maybe.
I have also used BMI Regional from LDS-BRU a few times, and the loads were broadly similar.
I have noticed Air France getting good loads on the ATR-72 though, at least the flights I was on. I think there were even one or two that were completely full.
Good to see that full service airlines can still justify BRS in the face of EZY/ RYR.
I have also used BMI Regional from LDS-BRU a few times, and the loads were broadly similar.
I have noticed Air France getting good loads on the ATR-72 though, at least the flights I was on. I think there were even one or two that were completely full.
Good to see that full service airlines can still justify BRS in the face of EZY/ RYR.
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Probably a little bit higher than 45% though not that much.
Don't forget the route reduces to 2 x daily on weekdays in the main summer period for about six weeks.
That would take out 544 seats each week for that period - total of over 3200.
Also the airport was shut for six days in April because of the volcanic ash - probably another 1300 seats removed from the equation and in addition there have been a number of cancellations this year, mainly weather-related.
This would increase the average load factor for the year to around 48%.
Probably a little bit higher than 45% though not that much.
Don't forget the route reduces to 2 x daily on weekdays in the main summer period for about six weeks.
That would take out 544 seats each week for that period - total of over 3200.
Also the airport was shut for six days in April because of the volcanic ash - probably another 1300 seats removed from the equation and in addition there have been a number of cancellations this year, mainly weather-related.
This would increase the average load factor for the year to around 48%.
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It won't come as a huge suprise to learn given Ryanair's heavy cuts to their winter schedules, plus the demise of the beloved EWR route that passenger numbers dipped in November.
317,956 pax = -5.85%
Details come from the Airport website. These numbers are yet to appear on the November CAA provisional report so no data on specific routes available yet.
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317,956 pax = -5.85%
Details come from the Airport website. These numbers are yet to appear on the November CAA provisional report so no data on specific routes available yet.
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From what I can see (and have not analysed in depth), KL/AF are driving up load factors by keeping their fares relatively low (and their fuel surcharges don't seem to be as punitive as LH/LX/OS/SN). So they appear to be running quite high load factors, but I'd be betting their yields aren't great.
KL/AF have the benefit of tremendous heritage at BRS. Their route-network is expansive and well understood, and certainly the bank arrangements at AMS work very well. (Personally, I wouldn't connect through CDG until it was the very last option). So they have the front-of-mind awareness and the volume of business.
It's possible that what KL/AF has now represents the upper limit of passenger volumes on full-service airlines from BRS, and that there's no growth left in that market. I hope that's not the case.
It would be disappointing to be in a situation where point-to-point airlines account for nearly all movements at BRS, and the only credible long-haul connecting option is KL through AMS.
(And honestly, while we're at it, the SN marketing of the BRU route is just painful. Do they run the same "cut out the Chunnel" line in NCL as well? Awful).
KL/AF have the benefit of tremendous heritage at BRS. Their route-network is expansive and well understood, and certainly the bank arrangements at AMS work very well. (Personally, I wouldn't connect through CDG until it was the very last option). So they have the front-of-mind awareness and the volume of business.
It's possible that what KL/AF has now represents the upper limit of passenger volumes on full-service airlines from BRS, and that there's no growth left in that market. I hope that's not the case.
It would be disappointing to be in a situation where point-to-point airlines account for nearly all movements at BRS, and the only credible long-haul connecting option is KL through AMS.
(And honestly, while we're at it, the SN marketing of the BRU route is just painful. Do they run the same "cut out the Chunnel" line in NCL as well? Awful).
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Its brilliant that Bristol stayed open yesterday when EXT,CWL and BOH all closed, the conditions were pretty rubbish, but there seemed to be an all hands on deck approach from all staff, Servisair, Menzies, OCS and customer service staff all helping clear stands and walkways, the fire crew and their contractors doing an excellent job clearing runway, taxi way and stands, flight crew showing patiance with operators given the situation was a massive help as well, and also senior management out and about in the terminal and ramp, being easily contactable and showing a face to passangers and staff, lets not forget that all this was done with most companies being under staffed as staff were snowed in at home or couldn't reach the airport.
And I believe only 14 flights in total cancelled, pat on the back deserved to all at BRS.
And I believe only 14 flights in total cancelled, pat on the back deserved to all at BRS.
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A rumour reaches my ears that LH may be considering buying EI. That would make BRS-DUB-NYC a more interesting proposition.
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I dont see why one route becomes more interesting because of who the airline is owned by? What difference would LH owning EI make to the BRS-DUB route?
EI inside an alliance is a more interesting proposition because:
- It dramatically broadens the route network available, and the ease of booking across several airlines. It also increases BRS prominence in the global network. More people are likely to fly BRS-DUB as part of an Alliance connection.
- For the flier, it means we get recognition and benefits when flying on BRS-DUB-NYC/BOS/IAD etc. That can make quite a difference even on a short-haul leg - priority security, lounge, priority boarding, priority on standbys, priority on upgrades, mileage redemptions, mileage upgrades. It makes the difference when deciding between going to LHR and flying UA/US/CO (with benefits) and flying BRS-DUB-NYC without.
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Really? I can't see how that would play strategically with the whole LH group. They're still very unhappy about being forced to take BMI.
The only credible suitors for EI are LH Group, IAG (BA/IB) or AF/KL. I don't think AF/KL have the muscle to do it, so I think it'll be tussle between LHG and IAG.
From a BRS perspective, I think putting EI in LHG would work well for us, as it begins to make us a multi-route airport for LHG - we might even fantasise about it becoming a "base", serving out to BRU/FRA/MUC/DUB/ZRH....
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Balloon crash near BRS
Sad news today about a hot air balloon crash near Bristol today, the balloon crashed to the ground in flames at 0930 this morning in the town of Midsomer Norton, approximatly 15 miles south east of BRS, the balloon was believed to of been carrying 4 lpg cannisters and was said to of been attempting a high altitude flight at 20000 ft when it came down in flames. The balloon was being tracked by BRS ATC at the time, I know the area very well and miracullously the balloon came down on a bowling green just yards from houses, a primary school, a hotel and several factories.
Sadly the 2 men aboard lost their lives, the AAIB are now on site investigating.
BBC News - Two killed in hot air balloon crash in Somerset
Two Killed After Hot Air Balloon Crashes In Midsomer Norton, Somerset | UK News | Sky News
Sadly the 2 men aboard lost their lives, the AAIB are now on site investigating.
BBC News - Two killed in hot air balloon crash in Somerset
Two Killed After Hot Air Balloon Crashes In Midsomer Norton, Somerset | UK News | Sky News
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Ryanair Summer 2011
I've had another look at the Ryanair summer 2011 timetable for BRS (invariably a work in progress this time of the year and it's been amended a couple of times already in recent weeks) and the current state of play is listed below.
Alicante 8 x weekly (up from daily)
Bergerac 3 x weekly
Beziers 4 x weekly (down from 5 x weekly)
Bratislava 2 x weekly
Dublin 16 x weekly (down from 21 x weekly)
Faro daily (up from 4 x weekly)
Girona daily
Gdansk 2 x weekly
Gran Canaria 3 x weekly (up from 2 x weekly)
Kaunas 2 x weekly
Knock 3 x weekly
Lanzarote 3 x weekly (up from 2 x weekly)
Limoges 2 x weekly (down from 3 x weekly)
Malaga daily (up from 6 x weekly)
Malta 3 x weekly
Marrakesh 2 x weekly
Milan (Bgy) 2 x weekly (down from 3 x weekly)
Palma daily (up from 5 x weekly)
Porto 2 x weekly
Poznan 3 x weekly
Reus 2 x weekly
Riga 2 x weekly
Rimini 2 x weekly
Rzeszow 2 x weekly
Seville 2 x weekly
Tenerife 3 x weekly (up from 2 x weekly)
Valencia 2 x weekly (down from 3 x weekly)
Venice (Treviso) 3 x weekly
Wroclaw 2 x weekly
This shows a total of 108 weekly rotations, 21 of which (14 Dublin and 7 Faro) appear to be operated by non-based aircraft from the timings.
Summer 2010 saw around 124 weekly rotations.
There are more longer sectors in summer 2011 and there are still gaps in the schedule as currently published, though it seems the 5 based aircraft of summer 2010 will certainly be needed in the coming summer.
I expect a bit more tinkering before the final version; in fact, some is inevitable because at present six inbounds are shown late on Saturday evenings. The list shows 29 destinations at present.
Budapest, Belfast City and the shortlived Bydgoszcz are the omissions from summer 2010, with the first two axed from the Ryanair network so far as I am aware.
It is noticeable that Ryanair has increased its sun destinations with Faro, Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Tenerife, Gran Canaria and Lanzarote seeing extra rotations.
They are certainly going head to head with easyJet on most of these routes with the Big Orange scheduling double-daily rotations each day in the main summer period on Alicante and Malaga, and 13 x weekly on Faro and Palma. easyJet also retains its 3 x weekly Tenerife against the increased 3 x weekly by Ryanair.
Alicante 8 x weekly (up from daily)
Bergerac 3 x weekly
Beziers 4 x weekly (down from 5 x weekly)
Bratislava 2 x weekly
Dublin 16 x weekly (down from 21 x weekly)
Faro daily (up from 4 x weekly)
Girona daily
Gdansk 2 x weekly
Gran Canaria 3 x weekly (up from 2 x weekly)
Kaunas 2 x weekly
Knock 3 x weekly
Lanzarote 3 x weekly (up from 2 x weekly)
Limoges 2 x weekly (down from 3 x weekly)
Malaga daily (up from 6 x weekly)
Malta 3 x weekly
Marrakesh 2 x weekly
Milan (Bgy) 2 x weekly (down from 3 x weekly)
Palma daily (up from 5 x weekly)
Porto 2 x weekly
Poznan 3 x weekly
Reus 2 x weekly
Riga 2 x weekly
Rimini 2 x weekly
Rzeszow 2 x weekly
Seville 2 x weekly
Tenerife 3 x weekly (up from 2 x weekly)
Valencia 2 x weekly (down from 3 x weekly)
Venice (Treviso) 3 x weekly
Wroclaw 2 x weekly
This shows a total of 108 weekly rotations, 21 of which (14 Dublin and 7 Faro) appear to be operated by non-based aircraft from the timings.
Summer 2010 saw around 124 weekly rotations.
There are more longer sectors in summer 2011 and there are still gaps in the schedule as currently published, though it seems the 5 based aircraft of summer 2010 will certainly be needed in the coming summer.
I expect a bit more tinkering before the final version; in fact, some is inevitable because at present six inbounds are shown late on Saturday evenings. The list shows 29 destinations at present.
Budapest, Belfast City and the shortlived Bydgoszcz are the omissions from summer 2010, with the first two axed from the Ryanair network so far as I am aware.
It is noticeable that Ryanair has increased its sun destinations with Faro, Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Tenerife, Gran Canaria and Lanzarote seeing extra rotations.
They are certainly going head to head with easyJet on most of these routes with the Big Orange scheduling double-daily rotations each day in the main summer period on Alicante and Malaga, and 13 x weekly on Faro and Palma. easyJet also retains its 3 x weekly Tenerife against the increased 3 x weekly by Ryanair.
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Will be interesting to see how it unfolds with Aer Lingus and Ryanair competing on the Dublin.
I do use the word 'competing' loosely.. fingers crossed they'll cohabitate too.
I do use the word 'competing' loosely.. fingers crossed they'll cohabitate too.
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There is no way that Aer Lingus will still have 3 daily (2 on SAT) by the end of next summer. I could see it being down to daily or 2 daily on some days.
Valencia is expected to be 3 weekly with Ryanar but no decision made yet.
Valencia is expected to be 3 weekly with Ryanar but no decision made yet.
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There is no way that Aer Lingus will still have 3 daily (2 on SAT) by the end of next summer. I could see it being down to daily or 2 daily on some days.
Personally, I'm over the moon I don't have to suffer O'Bleary's disgusting contempt for his customers (pervasive through his organisation) any more. BRS-DUB was the only route I would fly on FR (on the basis it makes no sense to go to LHR/BHX to go to DUB). Now I don't have to. Excellent.
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One daily flight would still get people to the US but 2 flights would be better for passengers.
Aer Lingus New York and Boston flights arrive in Dublin at 5:15 and 5:20 in the morning. With a departure for 6:30 to BRS. If passengers are on the return they can still go to New York, Boston, Orlando Chicago but there would be no return for Orlando and Chicago.
Lets hope people use it to travel to the US so the 3 flights will stay.
Aer Lingus New York and Boston flights arrive in Dublin at 5:15 and 5:20 in the morning. With a departure for 6:30 to BRS. If passengers are on the return they can still go to New York, Boston, Orlando Chicago but there would be no return for Orlando and Chicago.
Lets hope people use it to travel to the US so the 3 flights will stay.
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Ryanair @ Bristol
Ryanair have added IBZ - Ibiza to the list of destinations this summer from Bristol.
No details of operational day or times on website as yet, but there as a new route.
This takes routes served back upto 30 for Summer 2011
No details of operational day or times on website as yet, but there as a new route.
This takes routes served back upto 30 for Summer 2011