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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 10:35
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According to RTE 30 pax arrived on the Delta flight this morning after purchasing tickets themselves http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0702/globespan.html
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Oh dear.....

My concern is for the future of the Knock service. With so many (DUB/SNN) transatlantic options available within a couple of hours driving of the area served by Knock, I fear that FGS's reputation will drive traffic to the other Irish gateways.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 10:53
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Oh!
according to Irish news ONLY 30 pax came back, the rest are still in JFK!

"Almost 30 passengers arrived at Shannon airport this morning after being stranded in New York this weekend.

Globespan flight 201 from New York to Knock airport has been delayed indefinitely since last Thursday due to an 'engineering problem.'

A handful of the flight's 240 passengers arrived this morning after booking an alternative flight home through Delta Airlines at their own expense.

AdvertisementOne of the group bought tickets for ten others on his credit card as they could not afford the cost themselves.

Passengers described how they were shunted from the airport to hotels and back again since Thursday evening and were given different reasons for repeated delays of the Globespan flight.

Some passengers told RTÉ's Morning Ireland that Ireland West Airport should review its association with Globespan in the light of their experience.

Another Globespan flight due into Knock yesterday morning, GSM 736 from Boston, was cancelled and the return leg of that flight (GSM 735A) has been delayed indefinitely."
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Surely there's more than 240pax at JFK? If its been cancelled since Thursday then thats 5 days worth of pax (only 2 which go through Knock). There must be knocking on 1000 pax affected if you consider the 10 or so legs.
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What a mess. 500 now stranded in Ireland and the US according to the local news. The aircraft remains out of service with a "very unusual incident, which necessitated a complicated repair" a statement by Globespan said. Surely they can organise an emergency charter or book them on other flights.

NOC are organising accommodation and food for the passengers stranded there, which is a lot more than Glyglobespan are doing for the pax state side who don't even have an airline representative.
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The tech aircraft is the reason behind the delays on the Liverpool/JFK route, but whats the reason with the Glasgow/Boston delays?
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GLA- BOS delays

The reason for the Boston route delays is the terrorist attach at Glasgow airport on Sat afternoon. The aircraft has just landed in GLA from BCN when the attack happened. The aircraft with passengers onboard was stuck there for many hours before the authorities would let the passengers disembark from the aircraft. The airport was then closed until sunday. This is the reason for the delays GSM now suffer at GLA and EDI. Aircraft and crew out of position and out of flying hours.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 15:55
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GSM Scott,
On another forum, a passenger for the Sunday GLA-SFB flight was told that the flight was cancelled.
Did this happen with the BOS flight as well?

What is happening with the JFK flight?
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SFB

Yes most flights from GLA on the sat where cancelled. The SFB was cancelled on sun due to the airport being closed and the 767 stuck in GLA

The JFK aircraft is tech in JFK, it was struck by lightning and has been there ever since as the damage is worse than first though. All JFK flights been cancelled till 4th july with all pax being told to either change ther flight to the next one available or cancel and get a full refund. All this info is on the Flyglobespan website
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 16:00
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Originally Posted by warkman
OUCH!
Those poor pax, stuck in JFK. I am sure that FGS are supplying them with food and accommodation
A few seem to have escaped .....

Almost 30 passengers arrived at Shannon airport this morning after being stranded in New York this weekend.
Globespan flight 201 from New York to Knock airport has been delayed indefinitely since last Thursday due to an 'engineering problem.'
A handful of the flight's 240 passengers arrived this morning after booking an alternative flight home through Delta Airlines at their own expense.
One of the group bought tickets for ten others on his credit card as they could not afford the cost themselves.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0702/globespan.html
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 16:01
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What is happening with the JFK flight?
Basically nothing because they cannot fix the problem as yet.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 16:06
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JFK

Normally gsm would send a 737-800 to operate the JFK route but because of the incident at GLA on sat most of the 800's where stuck there till the airport reopened on the sunday afternoon.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 17:06
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Tell us GSMScot- if other airlines such as MYT as GLA can sub charter aircraft to cover GLA delays- why cant GSM......
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 17:50
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Sub Charters

That's one for the management at GSM to answer i'm afraid.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 19:19
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Gsm - Jfk

That would put over 1000 employes out of work if that happened

Unlikely to happen though. GSM have a very profitable european operation which is flying with almost every seat full.
The GLA -BOS & SFB is also very busy
The Canadia flights are also flying at near full capacity also.
Biggest problem is on the LPL- JFK route, this will drop to three times a week soon which should help.

Air India also make a lot of money for GSM.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 19:41
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GSM have a very profitable european operation which is flying with almost every seat full...The GLA -BOS & SFB is also very busy....The Canada flights are also flying at near full capacity also.
Hmmmm...... well am I missing something or is the demand in the lease market for 757's with ETOPS at a record high puting pressure on costs & availability?, otherwise what can be inferred is either GSM have a very low profit margin on their seat / mile costs, else the management are very stupid indeed.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 20:28
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If this article from the Orlando TV station WESH 2 is correct, this is also appauling service from Globespan:

http://www.wesh.com/news/13605346/detail.html

SANFORD, Fla. -- The terrorist attack in Scotland sent travel shockwaves across the globe over the weekend.

Flights were canceled after terrorists attacked an airport in Glasgow, Scotlan, on Saturday, WESH 2 News reported.

Scottish passenger Robert Kennedy was stranded in Florida after his flight home to Glasgow was canceled.


"We tried to speak to some people, but they didn't offer us any help," Kennedy said.

Officials said his airline, Fly Globespan, is not giving him any answers, and agents were not at the airport to even tell him about the flight.

Kennedy said that until he can catch a flight, he has to pay for his own hotel room.

"The way we have been treated is absolutely disgraceful, and to be told they wouldn't cover any costs is absolutely shocking," Kennedy said.

The 128 passengers on the flight were told to come back Monday morning to catch another flight home. Officials said it could take a few days before all the displaced passengers can catch flights.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 20:29
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Biggest problem is on the LPL- JFK route, this will drop to three times a week soon which should help.
Still advertising a daily service on Radio City today.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 21:26
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other airlines such as MYT as GLA can sub charter aircraft to cover GLA delays- why cant GSM......
Bet the ease MYT can sub charter aircraft for Glasgow won't go down well with one of that airlines services currently suffering a 11 hour delay into Liverpool from Reus.
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Old 2nd Jul 2007, 22:07
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Given the events of the weekend, I am sure even the people at LPL will understand why GLA has been given priority, if indeed they have, to cover flights delayed there.
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