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I would like GSM scot to give us the benefit of his wisdom
Why oh why oh why is the incoming GSM 402 ex BCN to EDI LATE every single day , it has a massive knock on effect on the outward Nice/Rome/Pula flight - GSM must be a joke in these airports !! I do not think Rome or Pula has a single on time sector this year . 401/402 have reasonable turnrounds in BCN .
Is GSM 472 tech in AGP today ?
And why oh why have they shaved 15 mins off the double AGP Saturday rotation , craft struggles already without this .
Why oh why oh why is the incoming GSM 402 ex BCN to EDI LATE every single day , it has a massive knock on effect on the outward Nice/Rome/Pula flight - GSM must be a joke in these airports !! I do not think Rome or Pula has a single on time sector this year . 401/402 have reasonable turnrounds in BCN .
Is GSM 472 tech in AGP today ?
And why oh why have they shaved 15 mins off the double AGP Saturday rotation , craft struggles already without this .
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I take you have never operated out on BCN, if you did you would know why there are delays, busy arrivals and up to 30 minutes of taxi time to the holding point.
I do wonder if the people on here have any aviation back ground other than FS, if you look at the Gatwick departure board online you see lots of flights running late, slots this time of the year cause delays and it is hard to catch up over the day, missing Pax and loading errors are other factors, so just post news not silly delay notices on here.
Sadly Prune is not the board it was.
I take you have never operated out on BCN, if you did you would know why there are delays, busy arrivals and up to 30 minutes of taxi time to the holding point.
I do wonder if the people on here have any aviation back ground other than FS, if you look at the Gatwick departure board online you see lots of flights running late, slots this time of the year cause delays and it is hard to catch up over the day, missing Pax and loading errors are other factors, so just post news not silly delay notices on here.
Sadly Prune is not the board it was.
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Have to agree, the turnaround for GSM401/402 is 55 mins at BCN which is positively leisurely for a loco carrier but GSM402 nearly always departs late even when arriving on time or drops further behind when late.
GSM401 ex EDI was off stand on time about 70% during May but GSM402 from BCN could only manage on time arrival to EDI of under 20%. This then impacts on the next rotation as, in common with other locos, there is not enough slack in the schedule to make up the time. FYI the 402 normally operates to Nice as GSM451/2 or Rome as GSM811/2 whose on time percentage for May is in the 30s.
Take those three routes out and ontime at EDI is 78% which is reasonable for this type of op. Quite what Flyglobespan can do about this right now remains to be seen.
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Have to agree, the turnaround for GSM401/402 is 55 mins at BCN which is positively leisurely for a loco carrier but GSM402 nearly always departs late even when arriving on time or drops further behind when late.
GSM401 ex EDI was off stand on time about 70% during May but GSM402 from BCN could only manage on time arrival to EDI of under 20%. This then impacts on the next rotation as, in common with other locos, there is not enough slack in the schedule to make up the time. FYI the 402 normally operates to Nice as GSM451/2 or Rome as GSM811/2 whose on time percentage for May is in the 30s.
Take those three routes out and ontime at EDI is 78% which is reasonable for this type of op. Quite what Flyglobespan can do about this right now remains to be seen.
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another new 738 on delivery flight by the looks of it G-CEJO I presume
Airline Flyglobespan
Flight Number 1P
Departure City (Airport) Seattle, WA (BFI)
Departure Time 06/27/2007 12:43 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Glasgow, Scotland, Great Britain (EGPF)
Arrival Time 06/28/2007 04:48 AM
Remaining Flight Time 02:15
Aircraft Type Boeing 737-800
Current Altitude 41,000 feet
Current Groundspeed 532 mph
Flight Status In Flight
I wonder what they are going to do with services during the winter to keep all these new aircraft in service ?
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Flight Number 1P
Departure City (Airport) Seattle, WA (BFI)
Departure Time 06/27/2007 12:43 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Glasgow, Scotland, Great Britain (EGPF)
Arrival Time 06/28/2007 04:48 AM
Remaining Flight Time 02:15
Aircraft Type Boeing 737-800
Current Altitude 41,000 feet
Current Groundspeed 532 mph
Flight Status In Flight
I wonder what they are going to do with services during the winter to keep all these new aircraft in service ?
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MAN Arrivals
Just to keep things evenly balanced, the following long haul are due in MAN today.
GSM104 Hamilton Due 10.00 Expected 10.00
GSM922 Vancouver Due 10.00 Expected 09.45
CO20 New York 07.40 13.10
US734 Philadelphia 08.35 13.05
DL154 New York 08.55 Canx
DL064 Atlanta 09.40 11.35
CO100 New York 09.55 11.25
BD706 Chicago 08.05 09.15
TS320 Toronto 11.20 22.50
Information from MAN Airport Arrivals/Departures website.
GSM104 Hamilton Due 10.00 Expected 10.00
GSM922 Vancouver Due 10.00 Expected 09.45
CO20 New York 07.40 13.10
US734 Philadelphia 08.35 13.05
DL154 New York 08.55 Canx
DL064 Atlanta 09.40 11.35
CO100 New York 09.55 11.25
BD706 Chicago 08.05 09.15
TS320 Toronto 11.20 22.50
Information from MAN Airport Arrivals/Departures website.
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CAA punctuality data released this week for the first quarter of 2007 is starting to paint a sorry picture for GSM - close to being the least punctual scheduled airline in the UK (20th out of 21) according to these stats:
Scheduled Airline Delay League Table - Q1 2007.
The detailed GSM stats show clearly that the problem lies with longhaul, average delays for the first three months of 2007:
GLA-SFB - 77 minutes
MAN-CPT - 140 minutes
MAN-YYZ/YHM - 185 minutes
(Source: flyglobespan CAA Route Delay Stats)
On the plus side the shorthaul program at STN, GLA and EDI was not too bad, some of the routes had very good punctuality in fact (80%+ OTP).
Scheduled Airline Delay League Table - Q1 2007.
The detailed GSM stats show clearly that the problem lies with longhaul, average delays for the first three months of 2007:
GLA-SFB - 77 minutes
MAN-CPT - 140 minutes
MAN-YYZ/YHM - 185 minutes
(Source: flyglobespan CAA Route Delay Stats)
On the plus side the shorthaul program at STN, GLA and EDI was not too bad, some of the routes had very good punctuality in fact (80%+ OTP).
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I have jusy used GSM for the first time EDI-PMI-EDI for the family hols.
I have to give praise were it is due, outbound sector on time, return delayed due slot, happens to us all.
Allocated seating, a BIG plus in my opinion as for the first time travelling with young kids which would make our rush for a seat a nightmare ( could always purchase speady boarding though
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On board service, friendliness and smartness of the cabin staff all very good.
Down side, 737-600, leg room was awful, both toilets at the rear ( we were at the front ) with no baby changing facilities.
Free luggage allowance is a joke, however as I have heard from many people the 20Kgs ( including hand luggage ) is NOT enforced in EDI but they are hot on it in PMI making you stick every thing including bum bags on the scales and creaming in a small fortune after lulling you in to a false sense of security departing the UK. We were OK as we had 4 seats for 2 adults and 2 toddlers so our allowance was covered, but I was getting very angry as what appeared to be their handling agents supervisor, a british woman, hung around checkin and was, in a condecending manner telling an elderly couple that after all your hand luggage does way something you know and the Captain needs to know all this to decide how much fuel to take 
I was preying she would say this to me so I could tell her all about standard weights!!!!!!!!
Also at the gate in PMI, no priority boarding for elderly or families or by seat row, just a scrum
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Overall, I would say a positive experience with some room for inprovement, but GSM please dont treat people as if they are stupid, be a bit more honest about your baggage policy and enforce it in UK so you don't fool people into thinking it will be OK upon return, because in all my years of travelling I have never seen so many people charged for excess baggage, and it was only a 737-600! And tell your people in PMI to tell the truth, you are not using actual weights so her info was utter tosh! I just hate seeing passangers being fed Bulls**t by airport staff and I keep that though closely in mind whenever I am delivering bad news PA's etc at work, nothing rings true like the truth!
Oh last point, found the flight timings very convienent, much better than anything we are offering AT THE MOMENT.
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EZYDRIVER
I have to give praise were it is due, outbound sector on time, return delayed due slot, happens to us all.
Allocated seating, a BIG plus in my opinion as for the first time travelling with young kids which would make our rush for a seat a nightmare ( could always purchase speady boarding though
)On board service, friendliness and smartness of the cabin staff all very good.
Down side, 737-600, leg room was awful, both toilets at the rear ( we were at the front ) with no baby changing facilities.
Free luggage allowance is a joke, however as I have heard from many people the 20Kgs ( including hand luggage
) is NOT enforced in EDI but they are hot on it in PMI making you stick every thing including bum bags on the scales and creaming in a small fortune after lulling you in to a false sense of security departing the UK. We were OK as we had 4 seats for 2 adults and 2 toddlers so our allowance was covered, but I was getting very angry as what appeared to be their handling agents supervisor, a british woman, hung around checkin and was, in a condecending manner telling an elderly couple that after all your hand luggage does way something you know and the Captain needs to know all this to decide how much fuel to take I was preying she would say this to me so I could tell her all about standard weights!!!!!!!!Also at the gate in PMI, no priority boarding for elderly or families or by seat row, just a scrum
.Overall, I would say a positive experience with some room for inprovement, but GSM please dont treat people as if they are stupid, be a bit more honest about your baggage policy and enforce it in UK so you don't fool people into thinking it will be OK upon return, because in all my years of travelling I have never seen so many people charged for excess baggage, and it was only a 737-600! And tell your people in PMI to tell the truth, you are not using actual weights so her info was utter tosh! I just hate seeing passangers being fed Bulls**t by airport staff and I keep that though closely in mind whenever I am delivering bad news PA's etc at work, nothing rings true like the truth!
Oh last point, found the flight timings very convienent, much better than anything we are offering AT THE MOMENT.
Rgds
EZYDRIVER
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Yes I am EDI based, and I do know all the horror stories that came out of the period when FLS were the engineering support for GSM, but thats old news. I am also aware of all the bad things that have been happening at GSM since Storm took over, as I have a few mates at GSM, but since there are more than enough people on here happy to give GSM a kicking I thought I would leave that to them and just give an account of being a pax with GSM with inside knowledge of what its like in this industry.
GSM I know are far from perfect, but they do have ( sometimes ) a good product and are giving the Scottish market what EZY has failed to do over the years where it had the chance, hopefully this will wake the sleeping orange giant from their tree in LTN and spar some compition for GSM. If that does happen I have no doubt who would win - the pax!
Just trying to give a balance to the debate thats all - after all even the tories gave a standing cheer of praise when Tony Blair left parliament this week !!
GSM I know are far from perfect, but they do have ( sometimes ) a good product and are giving the Scottish market what EZY has failed to do over the years where it had the chance, hopefully this will wake the sleeping orange giant from their tree in LTN and spar some compition for GSM. If that does happen I have no doubt who would win - the pax!
Just trying to give a balance to the debate thats all - after all even the tories gave a standing cheer of praise when Tony Blair left parliament this week !!
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You too can play the "What day will Globespan get me home?" game
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0701/knock.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0701/knock.html
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Ok to clear up a few tings posted, as far as im aware MUFC fan, there will be YHM, CPT and JNB routs through the winter from MAN. Not just YHM.
The first three months of 07 GSM had one 767 to op the CPT the YYZ/YHM and the SFB. Hence bad deleys when that a/c went tech, as GSM dont sub out.
The first three months of 07 GSM had one 767 to op the CPT the YYZ/YHM and the SFB. Hence bad deleys when that a/c went tech, as GSM dont sub out.
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According to Jethro's another 763 on the way from Air New Zealand in Nov.
Unless the Air India leases on one of the a/c is extended then are GSM planning even more long haul?
They really do seem to be taking on too much too quickly!
Unless the Air India leases on one of the a/c is extended then are GSM planning even more long haul?
They really do seem to be taking on too much too quickly!
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Here's GSMs rather ambitious plan to get the LPL-NYC service back on track. They might as well not shut the engines down...
01 July New York JFK / Knock 19:00 06:30* next day
02 July Knock / Liverpool 07:10 07:50
02 July Liverpool / Knock 09:30 10:20
02 July Knock / New York JFK 11:00 13:00
02 July New York JFK / Knock 14:30 01:30* next day
03 July Knock / Liverpool 02:10 02:50
03 July Liverpool / New York JFK 04:20 07:20
03 July New York JFK / Liverpool 08:50 20:35
03 July Liverpool / Knock 22:05 22:45
03 July Knock / New York JFK 23:25 00:25*next day
04 July New York JFK / Knock 01:55 12:55
04 July Knock / Liverpool 13:35 14:15
04 July Liverpool / New York JFK 15:30 18:30
Ta
01 July New York JFK / Knock 19:00 06:30* next day
02 July Knock / Liverpool 07:10 07:50
02 July Liverpool / Knock 09:30 10:20
02 July Knock / New York JFK 11:00 13:00
02 July New York JFK / Knock 14:30 01:30* next day
03 July Knock / Liverpool 02:10 02:50
03 July Liverpool / New York JFK 04:20 07:20
03 July New York JFK / Liverpool 08:50 20:35
03 July Liverpool / Knock 22:05 22:45
03 July Knock / New York JFK 23:25 00:25*next day
04 July New York JFK / Knock 01:55 12:55
04 July Knock / Liverpool 13:35 14:15
04 July Liverpool / New York JFK 15:30 18:30
Ta
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Lot of talk in Irish media at the moment about EI-Knock to/from JFK by aforementioned carrier being out of action, stranding passengers on both sides for 3 days now. Reports quote the captain in New York as telling passengers that as "there's a recurring problem with the aircraft, I'm not flying". Fully understandable from the Capt.'s p.o.v., but not good for SLF when there's no back-up a/c in place 