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With a name like "Thanet Earth" it sounds like it will be marketed as some kind of environmental initiative.
Part of the "eat local produce" idea.
My local supermarket already has a section devoted to goods produced in Kent.
Part of the "eat local produce" idea.
My local supermarket already has a section devoted to goods produced in Kent.
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Jes may be right, there may be no effect on cargo flights; but then again, who knows at this early stage?
A note on the size, which is now stated to be 91 hectares, that is about 226 acres.
A note on the size, which is now stated to be 91 hectares, that is about 226 acres.
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I am not against the airport. Far from it, alot of peoples livelihoods depend on it, but come on this is getting ridiculous and doesn't help anybody.
A large green house in the garden of England is not going to be a change in the airports fortunes.
Please lets wait to hear some real news, of real contracts being signed about real operators rather than all this grabbing at straws.
If they built a large Mcarthy and Stone would you assume SAGA were going to base operations from there?
A large green house in the garden of England is not going to be a change in the airports fortunes.
Please lets wait to hear some real news, of real contracts being signed about real operators rather than all this grabbing at straws.
If they built a large Mcarthy and Stone would you assume SAGA were going to base operations from there?
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Nothing wrong with a bit of speculation based on known developments. An agricultural production facility of the size proposed may well have an effect on Manston cargo throughput. We just don't know what Fresca's plans are so it cannot be ruled out.
There is also the question of the staff required for the facility. Clearly a place of that size will need a fair number of staff, many of whom are quite possibly from other countries. That may increase the prospects for passenger services. I will be the first to admit that that would be an unknown quantity, but, as the monkey said, every little helps.
Nothing wrong with a bit of speculation based on known developments. An agricultural production facility of the size proposed may well have an effect on Manston cargo throughput. We just don't know what Fresca's plans are so it cannot be ruled out.
There is also the question of the staff required for the facility. Clearly a place of that size will need a fair number of staff, many of whom are quite possibly from other countries. That may increase the prospects for passenger services. I will be the first to admit that that would be an unknown quantity, but, as the monkey said, every little helps.
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A large green house in the garden of England is not going to be a change in the airports fortunes.
I never suggested it would. As somebody who has spoken directly to the horses mouth (forget the horse puns, remember what happened last time) there will be a considerable surplus and it could end up going for export (sorry deedave but there are some here who have their ears considerably closer to the ground than you do.) All I said was maybe somebody from Manston ought to pop down and have a word, doesn't do any harm.
I never suggested it would. As somebody who has spoken directly to the horses mouth (forget the horse puns, remember what happened last time) there will be a considerable surplus and it could end up going for export (sorry deedave but there are some here who have their ears considerably closer to the ground than you do.) All I said was maybe somebody from Manston ought to pop down and have a word, doesn't do any harm.
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Looked impressive with a nice selection of heavy metal in today. Two MK (one with engine problems) and Luxair, all outside the terminal. African Int by freight along with the Atlanta refurb and the Tuesday Oasis doing the rounds.
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Quote manstonman - "sorry deedave, but there are some here who have their ears considerably closer to the ground than you do."
This is certainly true.
It's worth remembering that people with inside knowledge often have a connection to MSE, or other vested interest in promoting the airport on PPRuNe.
Information may be one-sided, incomplete, or inaccurate - and could be unhelpful if a casual visitor allowed it to influence a career decision or similar.
It is important that others contribute to this thread to ensure a more balanced and accurate picture.
Greenhouses - also "from the horses mouth" -
Steve McVickers, managing director Thanet Earth -
"With the impact of Thanet Earth we're going to add over 15% to the total current UK production, however that's probably less than 5% of what we actually consume. Such is the extent that we produce so little of what we actually eat now. Thanet Earth is the first real project which has the opportunity to reverse that trend"
Whether Thanet Earth reduces MSE imports remains to be seen, and the above quote makes exports seem unlikely. However, this project is a salutory reminder that the environmental/political climate favours local food production, and the whole issue of airfreighted goods remains under intense scrutiny.
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This is certainly true.
It's worth remembering that people with inside knowledge often have a connection to MSE, or other vested interest in promoting the airport on PPRuNe.
Information may be one-sided, incomplete, or inaccurate - and could be unhelpful if a casual visitor allowed it to influence a career decision or similar.
It is important that others contribute to this thread to ensure a more balanced and accurate picture.
Greenhouses - also "from the horses mouth" -
Steve McVickers, managing director Thanet Earth -
"With the impact of Thanet Earth we're going to add over 15% to the total current UK production, however that's probably less than 5% of what we actually consume. Such is the extent that we produce so little of what we actually eat now. Thanet Earth is the first real project which has the opportunity to reverse that trend"
Whether Thanet Earth reduces MSE imports remains to be seen, and the above quote makes exports seem unlikely. However, this project is a salutory reminder that the environmental/political climate favours local food production, and the whole issue of airfreighted goods remains under intense scrutiny.
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I have no "side" whatsoever only the hope that one day Manston may become a thriving airport, I suspect that is not a view shared by you?.
In relation to the greenhouses I see that you're quoting directly from the press release but I can assure you that exporting any surplus has not been ruled out. Whether it will go by road or air only time will tell and certainly won't happen for another couple of years until the thing nears full production.
In relation to the greenhouses I see that you're quoting directly from the press release but I can assure you that exporting any surplus has not been ruled out. Whether it will go by road or air only time will tell and certainly won't happen for another couple of years until the thing nears full production.
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Did you mean Cargolux when you said Luxair?
A totally different company, but certainly good to hear MSE freight activity is on the up - for the present at least.
For what it's worth I would have thought the economics of shipping produce ex MSE would be a complete non-starter, with any surplus being trucked to mainland Europe
Did you mean Cargolux when you said Luxair?
A totally different company, but certainly good to hear MSE freight activity is on the up - for the present at least.
For what it's worth I would have thought the economics of shipping produce ex MSE would be a complete non-starter, with any surplus being trucked to mainland Europe
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Apologies that should of course have read Cargolux.
You may be right regarding the surplus being trucked, my point was that it wouldn;'t do any harm for someone from the airport to go down and have a natter, you never know what might come out of it.
Any news yet on who has bought DAS? Some speculation elsewhere on these forums that it might be MK
You may be right regarding the surplus being trucked, my point was that it wouldn;'t do any harm for someone from the airport to go down and have a natter, you never know what might come out of it.
Any news yet on who has bought DAS? Some speculation elsewhere on these forums that it might be MK
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New MK Registration
MK are progressing with the UK registration of their fleet. It was rumoured that that it was their intention to do so some while back and it is good to see it happening. Whether they will re-register all of their fleet remains to be seen.
The latest registration issued is G-MKHA on 13-Nov-07 to a Boeing 747-2J6B, the previous registration of which was B-2446. That was an aircraft operated by Air China Cargo.
The latest registration issued is G-MKHA on 13-Nov-07 to a Boeing 747-2J6B, the previous registration of which was B-2446. That was an aircraft operated by Air China Cargo.
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MK Airlines has applied to provide service from Manston and Prestwick to Huntsville, AL and Miami, FL under the name of British Global Airlines. Is the company changing its name for everything, or just for this route application ...?
MK Airlines has applied to provide service from Manston and Prestwick to Huntsville, AL and Miami, FL under the name of British Global Airlines. Is the company changing its name for everything, or just for this route application ...?
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Probably all its ops so that it can "hide" the fact that as MK it has lost 4 aircraft over the past 12 years........
. Great news for Manston wonder if they now planning on moving into Manston for good. Plus is it MK that have brought DAS if so means they get there hands on the DAS hangar but that can only take DC-10's so maybe an MK DC-10 
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I just spotted this on the CAA website Official Notice Series 2.
"MK Airlines Limited to dry lease a Ghanaian registered Boeing 747-2B5BF aircraft (registration 9G-MKM) from 1 November 2007 until 30 November 2007 to provide cover pending the transfer of the aircraft to the UK register."
"MK Airlines Limited to dry lease a Ghanaian registered Boeing 747-2B5BF aircraft (registration 9G-MKM) from 1 November 2007 until 30 November 2007 to provide cover pending the transfer of the aircraft to the UK register."
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Jes said: Is the company changing its name for everything, or just for this route application ...?
Not sure but I spotted the advert for an OPERATIONS OFFICER - FLIGHT DISPATCH with MK AIRLINES LTD T/A BRITISH GLOBAL AIRLINES, HARTFIELD - I assume the T/A means Trading As?
Not sure but I spotted the advert for an OPERATIONS OFFICER - FLIGHT DISPATCH with MK AIRLINES LTD T/A BRITISH GLOBAL AIRLINES, HARTFIELD - I assume the T/A means Trading As?