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TUI group are reporting that provided the Egypt problems do not last beyond April their losses relating to the recent unrest in Egypt should not exceed £20m!
I can not see how Mubarak can cling on until Sept with or with out US support, Turkey or Greece for me, shame really cos i like Egypt, but i was in Luxor 3 weeks before they shot the German tourists and when i went back 2 years later the locals were telling me that visitor numbers were still well down even with loads of Army guys present to reassure people, which probably had the opposite effect!!!
I can not see how Mubarak can cling on until Sept with or with out US support, Turkey or Greece for me, shame really cos i like Egypt, but i was in Luxor 3 weeks before they shot the German tourists and when i went back 2 years later the locals were telling me that visitor numbers were still well down even with loads of Army guys present to reassure people, which probably had the opposite effect!!!
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The Allegiant B757s are on a short lease and essential for the summer 2011 programme, even without SSH. The B757 fleet should be around for quite a while and further purchases are probably in the pipeline, as the Allegiant deal is probably a stop gap measure and suspect it to be a breathing space, to negotiate a better deal on other B757s in the market. Nothing better, when buying, if you are not in a hurry....
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I don't think there were any Jet2 flights between Newcastle and Sharm since the first week of January so the return leg on 5 February was probably going to be pretty empty even without the upheavals in Egypt.
Absolutely, Milehighboy.... I believe it is just pure coincidence that your flight was so empty. By returning on the 5th, many would have already been in SSH when the trouble in the Cities began. In fact you yourself must realise that there is little need to cancel an holiday there.
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With mubarak refusing to stand down, I would not be surprised if these protests turn very ugly quite soon. Also i can see it dragging on and on.
Bookings for Egypt must be dropping to virtually nothing. I'd be surprised if you could fill a minibus let alone a 757 soon.
Perhaps the decision to drop Egypt as quickly as they did will prove to be much more fortuitous than people first gave Jet2 credit for.
Bookings for Egypt must be dropping to virtually nothing. I'd be surprised if you could fill a minibus let alone a 757 soon.
Perhaps the decision to drop Egypt as quickly as they did will prove to be much more fortuitous than people first gave Jet2 credit for.
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Its about the money!! stupid
Look i have no doubt that Sharm is at the present time "safe" but i come back to the basics, most wouldn't take the risk, i know they'll be some on here who are up for a bit of adventure tourism but the vast majority of punters have voted with their feet and bookings have collapsed and any airline needs to have a high load factor to make any profit, not just a handful it'll be fun die hard's.
Jet2 have had a pasting in the local press for cancelling flights to Sharm, the local rags quoted one couple who alleged that they were told their outbound travel was valid but the return leg was cancelled, the inference been that they would get a refund for the out bound leg only.
This has already cost a fortune and not all will be covered by the companies risks insurance because there is no travel advisory against Sharm and you can't insure against low bookings
Murbarak is now in Sharm so it must be safe!!!
I bet he will be in Saudi by first prayers and whilst the street of Cairo might get back to normal in a few weeks it will be a long time before English tourists will be walking them and until the tourist return Jet2 will stay away
Every cloud has a silver lining and crew planning will be pleased that they now have a chance to crew their summer schedule which was looking very unlikely on the 757 fleet, what a year Volcano's, loads of snow and riots will hit the bottom line
Jet2 have had a pasting in the local press for cancelling flights to Sharm, the local rags quoted one couple who alleged that they were told their outbound travel was valid but the return leg was cancelled, the inference been that they would get a refund for the out bound leg only.
This has already cost a fortune and not all will be covered by the companies risks insurance because there is no travel advisory against Sharm and you can't insure against low bookings
Murbarak is now in Sharm so it must be safe!!!
I bet he will be in Saudi by first prayers and whilst the street of Cairo might get back to normal in a few weeks it will be a long time before English tourists will be walking them and until the tourist return Jet2 will stay away
Every cloud has a silver lining and crew planning will be pleased that they now have a chance to crew their summer schedule which was looking very unlikely on the 757 fleet, what a year Volcano's, loads of snow and riots will hit the bottom line
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``Jet2 have had a pasting in the local press for cancelling flights to Sharm``
I`m just amazed so many charvers on their `all the beer you can drink in the sun` jollies even knew which carrier they were travelling with. You live and learn
I`m just amazed so many charvers on their `all the beer you can drink in the sun` jollies even knew which carrier they were travelling with. You live and learn
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With mubarak refusing to stand down, I would not be surprised if these protests turn very ugly quite soon. Also i can see it dragging on and on.
Bookings for Egypt must be dropping to virtually nothing. I'd be surprised if you could fill a minibus let alone a 757 soon.
Perhaps the decision to drop Egypt as quickly as they did will prove to be much more fortuitous than people first gave Jet2 credit for.
Bookings for Egypt must be dropping to virtually nothing. I'd be surprised if you could fill a minibus let alone a 757 soon.
Perhaps the decision to drop Egypt as quickly as they did will prove to be much more fortuitous than people first gave Jet2 credit for.
looking a hastier decision by the minute now!!
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There is much more to come out of Egypt before it's back to business the army are now in charge and a move to democracy is easy in words but when you have had 30 years of dictatorship it's more difficult in practice just ask the staff at Jet2!!
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I really don't understand why people are having a go at Jet2 for cancelling the Sharm flights, this is a very sound commercial decision it's not about who will govern Egypt or whether people will go to there on holiday later in the year, it's about the political climate now. To schedule the whole season of flights would be a risk and successful business is all about risk assessment. They looked at the risks i.e. falling bookings, possible need to cancel and compensate later and/or repatriation and decided it wasn't worth it. They can now reallocate the aircraft to profitable routes for the whole summer season. Good decision, full stop.
I agree with deltahotel 19. Now Murburak has gone the world will be watching to see what happens next. No company will make a move and reinvest until they see who will be in charge. Things might get better over a period of time provided the Country doesn't turn into another Iran or wage war with Israel. if there is stability by the summer Tour Companies and airlines will probably open up the market again.
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The reason people are having a go is because Jet2 said it was for Safety reasons and not for Commercial reasons.
Now if they had said because of the uncertainty in the country we have made a commercial decision to pull out of Egypt, we would maybe have said good for you.
Now if they had said because of the uncertainty in the country we have made a commercial decision to pull out of Egypt, we would maybe have said good for you.
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I agree its far better to say its for safety reasons than to tell the truth, passenger are so thick they much prefer that you lie about why you have just cancelled their holidays rather than tell the truth, this way you build up a long term relationship with them.
If it good enough for the company to be less than honest with its employee's then its good enough for our customers, we wouldn't want to be accused of double standards, would we?
If it good enough for the company to be less than honest with its employee's then its good enough for our customers, we wouldn't want to be accused of double standards, would we?
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Doesn't the Barcelona Court ruling and the Andalucia Governments ruling on not being able to charge for boarding passes also apply to Jet2, as well as Ryanair?