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Old 17th Jan 2011, 00:34
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JET2 has a very busy summer season and a much quieter winter. Due to planned growth for the summer of 2011 the fleet is expanding by 2xB738NGs, 1xB733 and
2x B752s. JET2 own most of their present fleet and some recent additions have been leased. With a quiet winter programme it would suit the finances of the company to lease in the summer and return the aircraft in the winter. It would appear that the 2 B752s will probably be leased, not bought, from Allegiant Air for the summer and then returned to them in the winter to operate flights to Hawaii for the Allegiant Air winter programme.

If this is in fact the deal with Allegiant Air and it works out favourably for both companies during the summer of 2011 and winter of 2011/12, then there would be more opportunities for leasing B752s for JET2's growth in future summer seasons, as Allegiant Air has committed to take about six B752s for their future winter sun programme.

It would make it unlikely for JET2 to buy or lease B753s from Condor, if the above 'guesstimate' is anywhere near the truth.....

Another consideration are the different carrying capacities of the B753s and the B752s.
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 11:16
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I don't think the Allegiant (G4) deal will be long term. AFAIK they haven't sorted out ETOPS yet so can't begin their Hawaii programme this summer. But when it does start chances are it will be year round. Most of G4's routes operate for most of the year, albeit at varying frequencies dependent upon the season
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 20:25
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Jet2 has cancelled its enitre Tunisian programme for summer 2011, The flights were to operate from LBA, NCL, MAN and GLA.#

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Old 17th Jan 2011, 22:40
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Not really a surprise, I guess over the last week bookings have almost stopped and will not recover for a good while. A real shame though as Jet2 have really pushed Tunisia this year with increases from some stations.

I suspect it may be back though eventually, certainly last year it did really well and was a dam good earner for on board sales!
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 22:52
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I agree. There was no need to close all flights until summer 2012. It's a long way off July and August but in a way it's good that they made the decision now rather than lather and they are giving passengers notice.

GLA base is getting smaller and smaller. 2 routes dropped and it hasn't even opened yet.
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 23:36
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Thats a real shame, but I guess customers safety has to be put first.

There is a new government in Tunisia, but now there is in fighting between those who support the new Govt and those who supported the old one, so the situation is still dangerous.

I wonder if any other operators will follow suit? I suppose its easier to re-book people now, and spread them across the programme before the last minute bookings make the job more difficult.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 04:27
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The customer safety issue is only for those booked on Jet2 Holidays and the rest is down to a high risk of making a loss on the routes.
Before anyone gets on their high horse, l would do the same if it was up to me.
Gives Jet2 time to add capacity on its other routes.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 17:34
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The MD has announced that further 737-800 models will be entering the fleet and will be introduced at all bases. They will initially work alongside the -300's and the 757's but will be the long term fleet.

So lets start the speculation, like for like replacement or will we see the surplus -300's and 757's be deployed elsewhere? A good way to test the water at other airports with fully depreciated and still cheap to operate 737's.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 17:56
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The MD has announced that further 737-800 models will be entering the fleet and will be introduced at all bases. They will initially work alongside the -300's and the 757's but will be the long term fleet
Advert for B737-800 captains in flight international says the same. It says the B738 will be working alongside the B733 and B752 at MAN, then progressivly rolled out to other bases.

Im not sure if the B738 is too big for some routes, such as MAN-BUD or MAN-BJV or NCL-KRK, whereas the B733 is more suited (size wise).
Im sure time will tell where they get posted and which routes.

Im guessing the B738 may be initially used on MAN-FAO/ALC/ACE so on, with the B733 doing cities and B752 doing Trunk routes/longer flights (MAN-TLV/PMI/SSH etc)
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 18:14
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738 on MAN-BUD

You could easily fill a 738 on the Manchester Budapest route.
It is always full. It is not just people going for breaks and the service is used by lots of Hungarian's and other nationals from that region.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 18:29
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The 737-800's will initially be used on MAN to Budapest and Rome plus a weekly Funchal sector. I suspect once they are operationally used to operating the type it will be used on the longer routes.

I might take a guess that some -700's may arrive in due course for routes that cannot sustain an -800 and as a direct replacement for the -300?
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 18:35
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Righthandrule that's exactly what I was informed was happening.
The 738 can cope with any destination offered by Jet2. It is just a matter of how many seats required against fuel burn.
That will decide what kind of aircraft goes on a route.
And that is for the commercial department.
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Old 20th Jan 2011, 16:53
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Rome

Rome and Budapest were operated in the past with a Futura aircraft? What was the seating capacity on that?
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Old 20th Jan 2011, 19:37
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Probably the same as Jet2 will be, 189Y like most LCC and charter airlines.
Fewer LCC airlines though have configuration of 186Y, like Transavia or Air Berlin.

Great news about even more 737-800, can't wait to see them operating!
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Old 20th Jan 2011, 20:04
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Probably the same as Jet2 will be, 189Y like most LCC
Maybe Jet2 will have fewer seats if optional extra legroom seating is offered.
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Old 21st Jan 2011, 00:08
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Could be. As Summer is always time of big demand, and they're starting out the 738's apearently in short routes where people don't need so much the extra space for a couple of hours, I wouldn't bet my money on that, I'd say the 18 standard extra-legroom seats would be enough, but.... you never know.
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Old 21st Jan 2011, 07:51
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Rome and Budapest were operated in the past with a Futura aircraft? What was the seating capacity on that?
That was a 737-400, seating about 170 from memory.
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 09:53
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Is this a fleet replacement programme, or are the B738s an expansion to the fleet, with the B733s soldiering on a few more years?
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 11:11
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Does anyone know what Jet2 are planning to fill the spare slots to Tunisia with?
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 12:13
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G-GDFC sat on west Apron at Manchester respendent in full Jet2 silver/red colours
should be off to Leeds soon to have it`s new seats and interior fitted


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