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It appears to me that Jet2 got caught out very badly through having an inadequate or even no contingency plan for the event of a major delay to an aircraft in the rather elderly 757 fleet.
Having said that, credit to Jet2 for implementing alternative arrangements, which although may not have been ideal, at least got the passengers to their destination.
On the subject of angry passengers, I wonder how much of this may have been caused by a lack of credible timely information from the airline.
Having said that, credit to Jet2 for implementing alternative arrangements, which although may not have been ideal, at least got the passengers to their destination.
On the subject of angry passengers, I wonder how much of this may have been caused by a lack of credible timely information from the airline.
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Widebody on short haul
The first widebody I saw on short haul was back in 1970 at PMI.
Condor were using their new B747's from Cologne to PMI about 2-3 times weekly on charters.
This got me hooked on aviation watching.
Condor were using their new B747's from Cologne to PMI about 2-3 times weekly on charters.
This got me hooked on aviation watching.
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Not at all. Monarch, Thomas Cook and Thomson all regularly fly widebodies on short haul routes.
The first widebody I saw on short haul was back in 1970 at PMI.
Condor were using their new B747's from Cologne to PMI about 2-3 times weekly on charters.
Condor were using their new B747's from Cologne to PMI about 2-3 times weekly on charters.
and don't forget Court Line operating for Clarkson Holidays
Would this make Jet2 the first low cost carrier in the world to operate wide bodied aircraft on short haul operations - assuming they acquire 767s and are put on European routes?
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MUFC, do you not consider Monarch to be a low cost airline? Their roots may have been charter but they are now very much a split between charter and low cost much as Jet2 have moved from being a low cost to a mix between low cost and charter!
Regular A300s and 767s used on the ZB summer flights.
Regular A300s and 767s used on the ZB summer flights.
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The majority of Jet2's business comes from selling seats on line. Monarch Airlines main source of income is the charter market.
Monarch is one of the UK's largest charter airlines where as Jet2 is a low cost airline that supplements it's income with Jet2holidays.
The majority of Monarch's business comes from the charters where as Jet2 is the opposite.
I don't want to get into a debate about what is and what is not a low cost/fares airlines but Jet2 will be the SECOND airline to fly wide bodied aircraft on it's intra-european routes after Air Berlin (I think!)
Monarch is one of the UK's largest charter airlines where as Jet2 is a low cost airline that supplements it's income with Jet2holidays.
The majority of Monarch's business comes from the charters where as Jet2 is the opposite.
I don't want to get into a debate about what is and what is not a low cost/fares airlines but Jet2 will be the SECOND airline to fly wide bodied aircraft on it's intra-european routes after Air Berlin (I think!)
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MUFC...maybe that was the split 5 years ago...not anymore...ZB flies 4 million pax a year and now does more than half the companys flying...so that'll make Jet2 the 3rd airline then? 
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Originally Posted by Career in travel website
Jet2.com is a low-cost airline based in Leeds, England. It operates services to domestic and European destinations. Its main base is Leeds Bradford International Airport (LBA), with hubs at Manchester International Airport (MAN), Belfast International Airport (BFS), Blackpool International Airport (BLK), Edinburgh Airport (EDI) and Newcastle Airport (NCL).
Originally Posted by Career in travel website
Monarch Airlines is a charter and scheduled airline based in Luton, England. It is one of the UK's largest charter airlines operating to Europe, the USA, the Caribbean, India and Africa serving mainly leisure destinations. It also operates scheduled flights (under the Monarch Scheduled brand) to Mediterranean destinations and the Canary Islands.
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Jet2 considers itself a low cost carrier, although I don't think their prices are low at all, even for short hops you get mut better deals, although they "own" LBA so they may make the prices they want.
From what I get, I'd say around 20% of the bookings I see are Jet2holidays.
The aircrafts concerns me a little. They're having technical problems all the time, and I'm worried it might takes a disaster to make them finally see that it's time to get newer ones. I hope I'm wrong, I love to see those 757 taking off. But they're not getting any younger and 22 years is a long time to keep them rotating all day long, am I wrong?
From what I get, I'd say around 20% of the bookings I see are Jet2holidays.
The aircrafts concerns me a little. They're having technical problems all the time, and I'm worried it might takes a disaster to make them finally see that it's time to get newer ones. I hope I'm wrong, I love to see those 757 taking off. But they're not getting any younger and 22 years is a long time to keep them rotating all day long, am I wrong?
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Monarch Airlines is a charter and scheduled airline based in Luton, England. It is one of the UK's largest charter airlines operating to Europe, the USA, the Caribbean, India and Africa serving mainly leisure destinations. It also operates scheduled flights (under the Monarch Scheduled brand) to Mediterranean destinations and the Canary Islands.
A lot of tour operators now book Monarch's scheduled flights via a direct trade website/viewdata.
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MUFC_fan....clearly the "professionals" are quite slack when it comes to updating their website! Most of the info regarding Monarch on there is a good 2 years out of date.
It's not your website, is it?
It's not your website, is it?
''The aircrafts concerns me a little. They're having technical problems all the time, and I'm worried it might takes a disaster to make them finally see that it's time to get newer ones. I hope I'm wrong, I love to see those 757 taking off. But they're not getting any younger and 22 years is a long time to keep them rotating all day long, am I wrong?''
Case in point on Tuesday this week - the aircraft from LBA to ALC went 'tech' and a substitute, smaller aircraft was substituted, leaving some unhappy pax being bussed to Manchester or flying later the same day. At least, to be fair to Jet2 the pax did finally get to Spain. With Ryanair they would probably still be in Leeds.
Case in point on Tuesday this week - the aircraft from LBA to ALC went 'tech' and a substitute, smaller aircraft was substituted, leaving some unhappy pax being bussed to Manchester or flying later the same day. At least, to be fair to Jet2 the pax did finally get to Spain. With Ryanair they would probably still be in Leeds.
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In confirmation of partyboy's statement that the split of Monarch's flights is 40/60, Monarch Airlines currently operate the following flights from MAN.
43 MON flights per week (Mostly A300, A332, B763 supplemented by A320/1 and B752)
99 ZB flights per week (Mostly A320/1 supplemented by A300, A332 and B763)
The mix of flights is almost 30/70, however considering aircraft type, the available seat mix is likely to be around 40/60.
Jet2 by comparison operate 76 LS flights per week mostly scheduled (Lo-cost) but with a few charters included.
Source : Flightcheck
43 MON flights per week (Mostly A300, A332, B763 supplemented by A320/1 and B752)
99 ZB flights per week (Mostly A320/1 supplemented by A300, A332 and B763)
The mix of flights is almost 30/70, however considering aircraft type, the available seat mix is likely to be around 40/60.
Jet2 by comparison operate 76 LS flights per week mostly scheduled (Lo-cost) but with a few charters included.
Source : Flightcheck
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Folks, PPRuNe is not a Customer Service point of contact for your trip. If you have questions regarding aircraft type, movies, seating, meals etc. CALL THEM.
Further, PPRuNe isn't a flight tracking site. If your flight hasn't left and/or arrived on time..... ASK THEM.
Better to get the information from someone responsible and accountable for providing it to you rather than an anonymous website.
You paid for the ticket, may as well get the service.
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Further, PPRuNe isn't a flight tracking site. If your flight hasn't left and/or arrived on time..... ASK THEM.
Better to get the information from someone responsible and accountable for providing it to you rather than an anonymous website.
You paid for the ticket, may as well get the service.
Thanks,
The Mods
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"Case in point on Tuesday this week - the aircraft from LBA to ALC went 'tech' and a substitute, smaller aircraft was substituted, leaving some unhappy pax being bussed to Manchester or flying later the same day. At least, to be fair to Jet2 the pax did finally get to Spain. With Ryanair they would probably still be in Leeds."
Oh, no complaints about that either
They've always given an alternative when a plane here gets tech. Either sending another aircraft (That already happened twice since June..), going to Manchester instead, or changing for another day free of charge. Yes, passangers complain anyway..But at the end of the day they realize we did what we could to in some way send them to their destination (or close), and are thankful for the costumer service.
Oh, no complaints about that either
They've always given an alternative when a plane here gets tech. Either sending another aircraft (That already happened twice since June..), going to Manchester instead, or changing for another day free of charge. Yes, passangers complain anyway..But at the end of the day they realize we did what we could to in some way send them to their destination (or close), and are thankful for the costumer service.