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I hope that next year will see more a/c purchased by bmibaby and possibly an extra a/c based at CWL, to add more frequency on busy routes expand add more new routes.
It sounded like it was a close call on where to base the last a/c and that they wanted to give FlyBe a fight at BHX, With the added route of Murcia and added frequency this year on Bucket and Spade routes, could be testing the waters for further expansion at CWL in 08?
BmiBaby must be aware of the rumours speculating about Thomson leaving BRS and going to CWL, and must be aware that FlyBe are having a look at CWL. I Bet the reason that they changed the BFS times to business friendly was to take on FlyBe which are operating a Belfast City daily from June.
It sounded like it was a close call on where to base the last a/c and that they wanted to give FlyBe a fight at BHX, With the added route of Murcia and added frequency this year on Bucket and Spade routes, could be testing the waters for further expansion at CWL in 08?
BmiBaby must be aware of the rumours speculating about Thomson leaving BRS and going to CWL, and must be aware that FlyBe are having a look at CWL. I Bet the reason that they changed the BFS times to business friendly was to take on FlyBe which are operating a Belfast City daily from June.
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I think the decision to base the 4th new a/c at BHX was a sensible, if not slightly predictable one. Success at BHX is baby's last hope of becoming a big player in the LOCO stakes. But what will happen at their other bases? Are baby in danger of becoming a one trick pony, highly successful at BHX but nothing but a fringe airline elsewhere?
EMA & MAN used to be their 2 biggest bases a few years ago with the potential to be huge had they been on the ball. Particularly at MAN where they were the only true low cost carrier for a number of years (ZB was still full service back then, TOM was still BY and LS were unheard of this side of the pennines). Yet growth of at these bases has been more or less stagnent and they have been overtaken by FR and EZY at EMA and by ZB, LS and TOM at MAN and don't seem too interested in even trying to compete. I reckon they've still got the chance to make things happen at CWL but only if they pull their finger out soon and really focus on trying to make this base work.
I know for a fact that they are popular ex MAN and do very well on the routes that they do operate. Is it a case of they are scared of competing against what they perceive as bigger players or are they simply happy enough to live in the shadows of their rivals and achieve success on the few routes they do have?
Will baby ever be a big operator out of MAN, EMA & CWL or will they just sit back and be content with what they've got?
EMA & MAN used to be their 2 biggest bases a few years ago with the potential to be huge had they been on the ball. Particularly at MAN where they were the only true low cost carrier for a number of years (ZB was still full service back then, TOM was still BY and LS were unheard of this side of the pennines). Yet growth of at these bases has been more or less stagnent and they have been overtaken by FR and EZY at EMA and by ZB, LS and TOM at MAN and don't seem too interested in even trying to compete. I reckon they've still got the chance to make things happen at CWL but only if they pull their finger out soon and really focus on trying to make this base work.
I know for a fact that they are popular ex MAN and do very well on the routes that they do operate. Is it a case of they are scared of competing against what they perceive as bigger players or are they simply happy enough to live in the shadows of their rivals and achieve success on the few routes they do have?
Will baby ever be a big operator out of MAN, EMA & CWL or will they just sit back and be content with what they've got?
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Why on earth has BmiBaby pulled a popular all year round route to Prague for a bucket and spade flight to murcia.
I'm sure that to qualify for saying that theres further developments at CWL is to actually add flights and routes not replace them.
BmiBaby really needs to pull their finger out and be a bit adventurouse, their no longer a Baby now they established theirselves at Cardiff and were the biggest airline at the airport. But now they have been taken over by Thomsons. If they don't base an extra a/c at CWL next year with new routes and bring back PRG then i think Thomson will push them out and go to town.
And was looking at their prices for ALC Jun07
BmiBaby - £170.20 RETURN PP (Based on 5 people)
Thomson - £166.76 RETURN PP (Based on 5 People)
Effective from the 29th of Nov 06 there was a charge for checked-in luggage on BmiBaby of £2.50 online or £5.00 at check-in each way.
This has now gone up to £3.00 online or £6.00 at check-in. How much money does this so called lo-cost carrier want from the consumer? It better be worth it for passengers flying from CWL.
Sort it out Baby and start treating CWL like a propper base and start expanding properly.
I'm sure that to qualify for saying that theres further developments at CWL is to actually add flights and routes not replace them.
BmiBaby really needs to pull their finger out and be a bit adventurouse, their no longer a Baby now they established theirselves at Cardiff and were the biggest airline at the airport. But now they have been taken over by Thomsons. If they don't base an extra a/c at CWL next year with new routes and bring back PRG then i think Thomson will push them out and go to town.
And was looking at their prices for ALC Jun07
BmiBaby - £170.20 RETURN PP (Based on 5 people)
Thomson - £166.76 RETURN PP (Based on 5 People)
Effective from the 29th of Nov 06 there was a charge for checked-in luggage on BmiBaby of £2.50 online or £5.00 at check-in each way.
This has now gone up to £3.00 online or £6.00 at check-in. How much money does this so called lo-cost carrier want from the consumer? It better be worth it for passengers flying from CWL.
Sort it out Baby and start treating CWL like a propper base and start expanding properly.
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Some MIGHT notice that this thread has been VERY heavily moderated. It should not take a professor of common sense to understand why.
It certainly wastes our time and I suggest that you think very carefully before you post OR in which forum your post should be.
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It certainly wastes our time and I suggest that you think very carefully before you post OR in which forum your post should be.
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bmibaby don't care about cwl now, if they are content with GLA 1*daily leaving thousands of business pax in lurch and with no alternative to BRS(myself being one of them) and then going and pulling PRG altogether knowing that this is infact a popular route then this just goes to show that CWL was just a springboard to greater name recognition. But instead of other carriers coming in to take on baby at CWL, the fact is that baby can do what they like here because no one is bothering to fight them which makes it all the worse that baby are pulling core routes.
bmibaby don't care about cwl now, if they are content with GLA 1*daily leaving thousands of business pax in lurch and with no alternative to BRS(myself being one of them) and then going and pulling PRG altogether knowing that this is infact a popular route then this just goes to show that CWL was just a springboard to greater name recognition. But instead of other carriers coming in to take on baby at CWL, the fact is that baby can do what they like here because no one is bothering to fight them which makes it all the worse that baby are pulling core routes.
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and pulling PRG altogether knowing that this is infact a popular route
It may be popular, but if the yield is poor it's ditched. And yield is what it's all about, especially with LCC's
It may be popular, but if the yield is poor it's ditched. And yield is what it's all about, especially with LCC's
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Back to business
Following press release has appeared on BMI website today
bmi, London Heathrow’s second largest airline, is to launch a new customer initiative focusing on the business traveller following eight months of consultation and feedback with both customers and staff.
The initiative, which goes live on 2 April, will see the introduction of an improved offering and product for the airline’s most loyal customers – diamond club members. While a paid-for in-flight catering service will remain a feature of mainline services from Heathrow, all diamond club members* will be entitled to complimentary food and drink onboard, priority seating towards the front of the aircraft and will continue to enjoy the benefits of one of the UK’s most generous frequent flyer programmes, through the lounge network and rewards scheme.
Under the new initiative diamond club will see the introduction of a new tier – blue plus – which is automatically awarded once 3,000 status miles have been earned in a 12 month period. Holders of blue plus, silver and gold cards will receive the complimentary in-flight meal as well all other diamond club benefits.
Nigel Turner, bmi chief executive officer, said: “We know that our most important customers are frequent flyers who often travel with us on business – a group that makes up a considerable proportion of our total passengers. They are looking for value for money, friendly welcoming service and want to be recognised and rewarded. Our new initiative delivers on all these points as well as helping to set out the future direction of the company, building on key strengths such as market-leading punctuality and a quick and efficient airport experience.
“Whilst our focus is on the business traveller we will continue to apply our ‘making travelling a pleasure’ ethos to all our passengers, whatever their purpose of travel. Customer feedback shows us time and time again that our people make bmi the preferred choice of airline, and significant investment in ongoing training will ensure that continues to be the case for all our customers.
“The airline industry has been through a period of massive change in the past five years – a process that continues today. By developing and evolving our products and services we can ensure we continue to meet and exceed the expectations of our customers and remain competitive in the marketplace.”
Also BMIbaby are to join the diamond club in the near future.
It's sad that the BOB service is remaining but certainly a step forward for BMI
bmi, London Heathrow’s second largest airline, is to launch a new customer initiative focusing on the business traveller following eight months of consultation and feedback with both customers and staff.
The initiative, which goes live on 2 April, will see the introduction of an improved offering and product for the airline’s most loyal customers – diamond club members. While a paid-for in-flight catering service will remain a feature of mainline services from Heathrow, all diamond club members* will be entitled to complimentary food and drink onboard, priority seating towards the front of the aircraft and will continue to enjoy the benefits of one of the UK’s most generous frequent flyer programmes, through the lounge network and rewards scheme.
Under the new initiative diamond club will see the introduction of a new tier – blue plus – which is automatically awarded once 3,000 status miles have been earned in a 12 month period. Holders of blue plus, silver and gold cards will receive the complimentary in-flight meal as well all other diamond club benefits.
Nigel Turner, bmi chief executive officer, said: “We know that our most important customers are frequent flyers who often travel with us on business – a group that makes up a considerable proportion of our total passengers. They are looking for value for money, friendly welcoming service and want to be recognised and rewarded. Our new initiative delivers on all these points as well as helping to set out the future direction of the company, building on key strengths such as market-leading punctuality and a quick and efficient airport experience.
“Whilst our focus is on the business traveller we will continue to apply our ‘making travelling a pleasure’ ethos to all our passengers, whatever their purpose of travel. Customer feedback shows us time and time again that our people make bmi the preferred choice of airline, and significant investment in ongoing training will ensure that continues to be the case for all our customers.
“The airline industry has been through a period of massive change in the past five years – a process that continues today. By developing and evolving our products and services we can ensure we continue to meet and exceed the expectations of our customers and remain competitive in the marketplace.”
Also BMIbaby are to join the diamond club in the near future.
It's sad that the BOB service is remaining but certainly a step forward for BMI
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So basically, they're bringing back business class, even if they didn't directly refer to it as that (for obvious reasons).
I think bmi finally decided their direction in life...
I think bmi finally decided their direction in life...
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The majority of the new benefits have been available at CWL for a while now, except for the business points and the ability to alter the return journey on the day of travel free of charge if it's earlier or £35 if it's later.
The problem with this at CWL is that it wouldn't be possible for the business passengers to go on a later or earlier flight because there isn't one as theres only twice daily to EDI, BFS and only once Daily to GLA. (Except for fridays where EDI is 3 x daily)
So really not much of a change for CWL. What would the benefits be for the points?
The problem with this at CWL is that it wouldn't be possible for the business passengers to go on a later or earlier flight because there isn't one as theres only twice daily to EDI, BFS and only once Daily to GLA. (Except for fridays where EDI is 3 x daily)
So really not much of a change for CWL. What would the benefits be for the points?
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Why don't you just invite BMI to take space on this forum? It would help the cost of running PPRuNe but DO NOT put their ads on here.
This has all be posted at the top of this forum for over a week now.
Have a rest while you consider.
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Why don't you just invite BMI to take space on this forum? It would help the cost of running PPRuNe but DO NOT put their ads on here.
This has all be posted at the top of this forum for over a week now.
Have a rest while you consider.
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Baby should take note. Flyme, a Swedish airline has gone bankrupt. They operated 7 737s. Surely Baby should try to get at least one or two of them to expand their bases at Cardiff/EMA/Manchester or to set up the rumoured new base at Edinburgh.
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Three of the 737s were ex Asteraus so they could revert to British registraion tomorrow.
I would think they would be available for British carriers very quickly, with the summer around the corner not if one looks out of the window today very wet aircraft might be at a premium
Well maybe Flybe will take them back on in view of there problems with the Embraer so Baby act quickly.
I would think they would be available for British carriers very quickly, with the summer around the corner not if one looks out of the window today very wet aircraft might be at a premium
Well maybe Flybe will take them back on in view of there problems with the Embraer so Baby act quickly.
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Could LS jump in for the 733s? Currently have 2 Futura 734s for the summer, along with other aircraft. Could the 733s be taken instead of the 734s? Afterall, the 733s would fit better into the LS fleet as they are exactly the same as their current fleet!
Any thoughts, or should this be in the LS post?
Any thoughts, or should this be in the LS post?
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The 734's are to replace the 752's that were lost (due to them requiring too much work to get them serviceable again?) so replacing them with 733's would be another step down.