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Manston whenever I can
I've watched the bickering about Manston for some time now, and confess to having used the airport on every occasion where a choice was available to me.
Driving up the M25 and M11 to Stansted or using the M20 and M25 to Gatwick can't compare to 25 minutes on the M2 and Thanet Way.
EUJet certainly had it's faults and when they dropped the GLA route it certainly forced me to go back to using LGW. But I continued to use them whenever possible.
I will use the flights to Norfolk Va. a couple of times this summer and if another carrier emerges to run regular scheduled services within the UK and mainland Europe I will use them also.
More power to Infratil's arm. I wish them good fortune and early success at finding a reputable carrier for the airport
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Driving up the M25 and M11 to Stansted or using the M20 and M25 to Gatwick can't compare to 25 minutes on the M2 and Thanet Way.
EUJet certainly had it's faults and when they dropped the GLA route it certainly forced me to go back to using LGW. But I continued to use them whenever possible.
I will use the flights to Norfolk Va. a couple of times this summer and if another carrier emerges to run regular scheduled services within the UK and mainland Europe I will use them also.
More power to Infratil's arm. I wish them good fortune and early success at finding a reputable carrier for the airport
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Bickering?
A little unfair perhaps.
That was all in the past.
Everyone is behaving very well I think.
Congratulations to all !!!
BTW - I don't normally join in detailed discussion about comparitive surface travel to airports, but I thought I would mention that, if one is seeking the cheap LGW deals, the obvious way to go is by rail via Tonbridge.
I think the last time I did it from Thanet, it was around 25 quid return.
Car is OK but you have to park.
Going by taxi would be a bit bonkers.
A little unfair perhaps.
That was all in the past.
Everyone is behaving very well I think.
Congratulations to all !!!
BTW - I don't normally join in detailed discussion about comparitive surface travel to airports, but I thought I would mention that, if one is seeking the cheap LGW deals, the obvious way to go is by rail via Tonbridge.
I think the last time I did it from Thanet, it was around 25 quid return.
Car is OK but you have to park.
Going by taxi would be a bit bonkers.
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Ramsgate to Gatwick
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from Ramsgate to Gatwick
just looked at a day how to get to Gatwick from Ramsgate
Outward journey: Thursday 1 February
from 2.28 hours to 2.45 mins
Cost peak via Tonbridge £32.80 off peak £22
Cost peak via Vic £35.30 off peak £32.80
and thats each way, with a journey time of 2.28 to 2.45 mins
two adults two children your looking at around £200
with check in times and a bit of insurance time, you have to leave about 5 hours before your flight. so you need a flight after about 10.30 to get there, if your flight come in after about 9.30 ish. your miss the last train.
take a taxi much better.
from Ramsgate to Gatwick
just looked at a day how to get to Gatwick from Ramsgate
Outward journey: Thursday 1 February
from 2.28 hours to 2.45 mins
Cost peak via Tonbridge £32.80 off peak £22
Cost peak via Vic £35.30 off peak £32.80
and thats each way, with a journey time of 2.28 to 2.45 mins
two adults two children your looking at around £200
with check in times and a bit of insurance time, you have to leave about 5 hours before your flight. so you need a flight after about 10.30 to get there, if your flight come in after about 9.30 ish. your miss the last train.
take a taxi much better.
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I travel alone, so I get a saver return. Just phoned rail company - it's 27 quid return off-peak.(cheaper with railcard)
Wth a family, you would use a family railcard.
Mind you, just phoned Gatwick BCP and you can currently park there for a fortnight for 59 quid.
Bargain!
Wth a family, you would use a family railcard.
Mind you, just phoned Gatwick BCP and you can currently park there for a fortnight for 59 quid.
Bargain!
Join Date: May 2005
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Ramp Staff
I" think it's more to do with the holiday flight programs rather than cargo flights hence the 3 month contract."
Actually it is more to do with cargo than passenger.
10 additional ramp staff are being sought at the moment to allow freight to be built 24 hrs a day.
This is a sign that the increase in freight handling is not just a blip, but a steady and expected increase.
The 3 month contract, seems to be the way to get in the door at the moment.
Most of the staff that have been taken on over the last 12 months, started on a 3 month short term contract.
A "cargo ramp agent" is a job decription for someone trained to work on the "ramp" ( ground handling services )
Which may include building freight, general warehouse duties and all that is involved in the turn around of aircraft.
Actually it is more to do with cargo than passenger.
10 additional ramp staff are being sought at the moment to allow freight to be built 24 hrs a day.
This is a sign that the increase in freight handling is not just a blip, but a steady and expected increase.
The 3 month contract, seems to be the way to get in the door at the moment.
Most of the staff that have been taken on over the last 12 months, started on a 3 month short term contract.
A "cargo ramp agent" is a job decription for someone trained to work on the "ramp" ( ground handling services )
Which may include building freight, general warehouse duties and all that is involved in the turn around of aircraft.
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I think the airshow's been cancelled because the bloodhounds are busy sniffing out just how much it has cost Thanet's long-suffering taxpayers. Then the real questions will start; first and foremost, who presented the Council with a projected estimate of the cost and when did the Councillors vote to sanction this expenditure.
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Airshow 2007
from the BBC site:
The 2007 Kent Air Show has been cancelled but will return in 2008, Thanet council has said.
Organisers have told the authority they cannot take any financial risk over the event, said Councillor Roger Latchford.
He said that would mean the council having to underwrite the show by £300,000 instead of £30,000 as in 2006.
"The sad fact is the underwriting required would be 10 times the amount of previous years. We can't take that risk with taxpayers' money," he said.
He added that the council needed a commercial operator to take the remainder of the risk, which had not proved possible.
Aerial displays
"We are already working towards putting the Kent Air Show Margate on in 2008 and are talking to other operators," he said.
An event featuring music, clowns, entertainers, trapeze artists and pyrotechnics will take place at Palm Bay on 16 and 17 June instead of the air show.
It will also include aerial displays on both days, the council said.
Margate's first air show in 2005 included a Red Arrows display and the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, with Harriers, Spitfires and Hurricanes on display.
In 2006, a single-seater Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft was exhibited as the show's major highlight. Other features included the Red Arrows, the latest fast jets, fighters, bombers, WWII aircraft and parachute displays.
The 2007 Kent Air Show has been cancelled but will return in 2008, Thanet council has said.
Organisers have told the authority they cannot take any financial risk over the event, said Councillor Roger Latchford.
He said that would mean the council having to underwrite the show by £300,000 instead of £30,000 as in 2006.
"The sad fact is the underwriting required would be 10 times the amount of previous years. We can't take that risk with taxpayers' money," he said.
He added that the council needed a commercial operator to take the remainder of the risk, which had not proved possible.
Aerial displays
"We are already working towards putting the Kent Air Show Margate on in 2008 and are talking to other operators," he said.
An event featuring music, clowns, entertainers, trapeze artists and pyrotechnics will take place at Palm Bay on 16 and 17 June instead of the air show.
It will also include aerial displays on both days, the council said.
Margate's first air show in 2005 included a Red Arrows display and the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, with Harriers, Spitfires and Hurricanes on display.
In 2006, a single-seater Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft was exhibited as the show's major highlight. Other features included the Red Arrows, the latest fast jets, fighters, bombers, WWII aircraft and parachute displays.
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And from the local paper:
Thanet Council had been trying to find a company to put on the display in Palm Bay this Summer after Tonge Events pulled out. Tonge had been behind the past two years' shows but ran the displays at a loss. Last month parent company Tonge International went out of business."
Hmmmm. Thousands of paying customers, a generous subsidy from the local Council, the beaches closed to force people to pay, perfect weather, and they still made a loss. Where did all of that money go? I think we should be told.
Thanet Council had been trying to find a company to put on the display in Palm Bay this Summer after Tonge Events pulled out. Tonge had been behind the past two years' shows but ran the displays at a loss. Last month parent company Tonge International went out of business."
Hmmmm. Thousands of paying customers, a generous subsidy from the local Council, the beaches closed to force people to pay, perfect weather, and they still made a loss. Where did all of that money go? I think we should be told.
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i agree catflaps we should be told, but surely this isnt the forum to have this discussion?
Apart from the aircraft that may have come to the airshow and possibly overnighting at MSE, what does this thread have to do with Manston?
Surely this is better suited in the replies column of the local gazzette?
Apart from the aircraft that may have come to the airshow and possibly overnighting at MSE, what does this thread have to do with Manston?
Surely this is better suited in the replies column of the local gazzette?
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Indeed they did.
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On Saturday 18 and Sunday 19 June 2005, the town will host its first ever Air Show, the Flight Margate Air Show, on the seafront in Palm Bay, which will be sponsored by EUjet, the low cost regional airline, flying from Kent International Airport Manston.
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Hi blazing air,
Agreed. Let's not mention the airshow. Instead, perhaps you can give us for the source of some information you quoted as if it were a fact:
"10 additional ramp staff are being sought at the moment to allow freight to be built 24 hrs a day."
As I'm sure you're aware, Manston is covered by a legal agreement with the local Council, which applies punitive financial penalties to movements between 23:00 and 07:00. Pray tell us how they are going to build to 24hrs a day.
Agreed. Let's not mention the airshow. Instead, perhaps you can give us for the source of some information you quoted as if it were a fact:
"10 additional ramp staff are being sought at the moment to allow freight to be built 24 hrs a day."
As I'm sure you're aware, Manston is covered by a legal agreement with the local Council, which applies punitive financial penalties to movements between 23:00 and 07:00. Pray tell us how they are going to build to 24hrs a day.