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OK back to discussion -
Had lots of reinvestment in the RFFS from Infratil recently with Watches being
re-established to provide ICAO category 6 12hrs daily 365 a year.
The Watches are aimed at supplying ICAO 8 from May to October if all goes well from Cosmos. After that we would be able to provide ICAO 7 at all operating times.
Those in the business will realise what permanent 7 means to most low cost operators. I.E. we are ready now
Had lots of reinvestment in the RFFS from Infratil recently with Watches being
re-established to provide ICAO category 6 12hrs daily 365 a year.
The Watches are aimed at supplying ICAO 8 from May to October if all goes well from Cosmos. After that we would be able to provide ICAO 7 at all operating times.
Those in the business will realise what permanent 7 means to most low cost operators. I.E. we are ready now
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I think what foamer is saying is that, as far as the Fire & Rescue capabilities are concerned, they are ready to accept scheduled flights.
Most of the Loco's use aircraft which fall into I.C.A.O Cat7.
So should one announce flights from or to MSE, they would be able handle them without need for recruitment or too much more investment.
It takes a few years to take a guy/girl off the street and train him/her to become a fully qualified aviation firefighter.
This link provides a little more information on the RFFS.
http://www.fireservice.co.uk/articles/aviation.php
I think what foamer is saying is that, as far as the Fire & Rescue capabilities are concerned, they are ready to accept scheduled flights.
Most of the Loco's use aircraft which fall into I.C.A.O Cat7.
So should one announce flights from or to MSE, they would be able handle them without need for recruitment or too much more investment.
It takes a few years to take a guy/girl off the street and train him/her to become a fully qualified aviation firefighter.
This link provides a little more information on the RFFS.
http://www.fireservice.co.uk/articles/aviation.php
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Originally Posted by deedave View Post
"Thie evening, we seem to be bringing our widely differing views to this forum considerately, politely, and intelligently.
We also appear to have self-moderated ourselves through a point of order.
I think the removal of certain contributors has helped.
At the risk of being creepy, do I speak for all of us when I say three cheers for the mods"?
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Not three cheers for the mods..three cheers for the Manston ppruners for getting the thread back on track with lively and interesting discussion again.
Thank you
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"Thie evening, we seem to be bringing our widely differing views to this forum considerately, politely, and intelligently.
We also appear to have self-moderated ourselves through a point of order.
I think the removal of certain contributors has helped.
At the risk of being creepy, do I speak for all of us when I say three cheers for the mods"?
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Not three cheers for the mods..three cheers for the Manston ppruners for getting the thread back on track with lively and interesting discussion again.
Thank you
Moderatrors.
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As a distant observer KIA has no chance whatsoever. You have only to look at the time taken to start up and establish STN (30 years and that was with a blank cheque and government support). It is no good to dream about future growth of air traffic and how this may be instrumental in kick starting KIA. There is still a lot of spare slots at LGW and STN with a huge infrastructure behind it so who on earth is going to wish to set up and fly from KIA. The airport has always struggled and unlike many other debveloping airports does not even boast a history of civil flights.
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I hear what you are saying, but it is the very fact that this operation provides a fst turn-around for MK & Egypt as to why it's so succesful.
Granted in an ideal world, it would loaded off onto dollies then onto a roller bed system to feed the trucks.
But Manston isnt set up like that yet, so the fork lift truck and slave pallet rule at the moment all the time it gives a fast offload.
I do agree that on the freight side, space is paramount, once a 747 build has been completed, there is hardly room to sneeze in there.
But i did see the surveyors on Echo the other day looking at putting more concrete down i hear, and negotiations still ongoing to get Hangar 3 back for freight builds.
I hear what you are saying, but it is the very fact that this operation provides a fst turn-around for MK & Egypt as to why it's so succesful.
Granted in an ideal world, it would loaded off onto dollies then onto a roller bed system to feed the trucks.
But Manston isnt set up like that yet, so the fork lift truck and slave pallet rule at the moment all the time it gives a fast offload.
I do agree that on the freight side, space is paramount, once a 747 build has been completed, there is hardly room to sneeze in there.
But i did see the surveyors on Echo the other day looking at putting more concrete down i hear, and negotiations still ongoing to get Hangar 3 back for freight builds.
Where abouts is hangar 3
Is that the hangar near the DAS hangar and taking off DAS is there any news on there return.?One other thing is the flights to the USA are they on the 767?Regards
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As a distant observer KIA has no chance whatsoever. You have only to look at the time taken to start up and establish STN (30 years and that was with a blank cheque and government support). It is no good to dream about future growth of air traffic and how this may be instrumental in kick starting KIA. There is still a lot of spare slots at LGW and STN with a huge infrastructure behind it so who on earth is going to wish to set up and fly from KIA. The airport has always struggled and unlike many other debveloping airports does not even boast a history of civil flights.
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You will find out the news on DAS in February.
Post #40 explained the flights will be with a 767.
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Echo apron is to be extended considerably, with extra 747-size stands, and the ability to pushback and/or taxi without other aircraft having to move. Tenders have been invited, and the plan is to start construction at the end of March.
MK are now running daily from Nairobi; obviously there are days when the flight will be cancelled: e.g. today.
MK are now running daily from Nairobi; obviously there are days when the flight will be cancelled: e.g. today.
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Of interest to freight airports-
"The Times" today-
"Air freighted food to be given a warning label"
Tesco, Asda and Marks and Spencer are to mark their air freighted food to "encourage shoppers to leave the goods on the shelf if they wish to be green".
"Only between 3 and 4 per cent of food sold in supermarkets is flown to Britain"
"Tesco hopes to reduce the amount of air-freighted food to less than 1 per cent"
etc.
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"The Times" today-
"Air freighted food to be given a warning label"
Tesco, Asda and Marks and Spencer are to mark their air freighted food to "encourage shoppers to leave the goods on the shelf if they wish to be green".
"Only between 3 and 4 per cent of food sold in supermarkets is flown to Britain"
"Tesco hopes to reduce the amount of air-freighted food to less than 1 per cent"
etc.
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If its only 4%, what the bloody hell they worrying about 
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DEEDAVE
Not all freight has to be from food imports.
Ford distribution branch at dartford last month cancelled all ship imports in favour of "Cheaper" air freight, yes cheaper i here you say.
Manston could capitalise on this perphaphs?
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DEEDAVE
Not all freight has to be from food imports.
Ford distribution branch at dartford last month cancelled all ship imports in favour of "Cheaper" air freight, yes cheaper i here you say.
Manston could capitalise on this perphaphs?
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A small point but we have been asked not to swear.
Difficult for me, for I am a very sweary individual, but I think we should abide by this.
I wouldn't like to see you banned just as you are out of your probationary period..........
A small point but we have been asked not to swear.
Difficult for me, for I am a very sweary individual, but I think we should abide by this.
I wouldn't like to see you banned just as you are out of your probationary period..........
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Of interest to freight airports-
"The Times" today-
"Air freighted food to be given a warning label"
Tesco, Asda and Marks and Spencer are to mark their air freighted food to "encourage shoppers to leave the goods on the shelf if they wish to be green".
"Only between 3 and 4 per cent of food sold in supermarkets is flown to Britain"
"Tesco hopes to reduce the amount of air-freighted food to less than 1 per cent"
etc..
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"The Times" today-
"Air freighted food to be given a warning label"
Tesco, Asda and Marks and Spencer are to mark their air freighted food to "encourage shoppers to leave the goods on the shelf if they wish to be green".
"Only between 3 and 4 per cent of food sold in supermarkets is flown to Britain"
"Tesco hopes to reduce the amount of air-freighted food to less than 1 per cent"
etc..
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Its my experience that the majority of shoppers don't pay too much attention to the labels on the produce they buy....so while there is a demand.......I think it will continue to be flown in.
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....and of course a lot of fruit, vegetables and flowers cannot be grown outside Africa/Asia and will always have to be flown in if we want these as fresh produce.