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i thought Thomas Cook were to withdraw their longhaul fleet. So who will be operating this flight on their behalf?
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Yes some of the 330's have gone now.
Can i just ask i have heard that the 767 going to Condor is only being leased and will be returned to TCX in a few years. Is this true or is it staying with Condor.
Can i just ask i have heard that the 767 going to Condor is only being leased and will be returned to TCX in a few years. Is this true or is it staying with Condor.
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Hey gouys one of the B757's havs not been flying recently. Anyone know why?
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As has been stated above winglets have a 'minimum' range below which the cost in fuel of carrying the winglet out weighs the aerodynamic fuel saving given.
I seem to remember this being about 4 hours flying time.
Airbus has debated long and hard about the introduction of 'sharklets' on the 320 as the weight issue was greater than the savings due to the relatively short hops the aircraft does. With the advent of low weight composites though the NEO receives greater benefits than losses.
The 757 needs all the help it can get with fuel burn mind you!
Hope that helps.
I seem to remember this being about 4 hours flying time.
Airbus has debated long and hard about the introduction of 'sharklets' on the 320 as the weight issue was greater than the savings due to the relatively short hops the aircraft does. With the advent of low weight composites though the NEO receives greater benefits than losses.
The 757 needs all the help it can get with fuel burn mind you!
Hope that helps.
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TCX 753 winglets
Just back from a week in Tenerife. Flew 753 gla-tfs with winglets (first time on a 753). Took off on rw 05 and did a circle north of glasgow before geting on track down the west coast. Once down in tfs we landed on rw26 first time this way and was a really smooth landing by the first officer Icbal (not sure his name sorry if its spelt wrong) Captain was Cpt lawson.
On return was with Cpt Ramsey and Fo Sweeney who flew us home with good announcments. With the wet/windy weather in Gla I was expecting the usual roller coaster landing I've normally had but again was pretty smoothish (for gla)
Unfortunalty the cabin was a bit tired and the pack them in seating aint good. For the first time in age's I've heard numerous pasengers complaining about the cramped conditions.
Couple of questions. How long have tcx had winglets on the 753's and do they make a diference?
For me the 75 series are the best looking aircraft around but is there a direct replacement for these old birds?
On return was with Cpt Ramsey and Fo Sweeney who flew us home with good announcments. With the wet/windy weather in Gla I was expecting the usual roller coaster landing I've normally had but again was pretty smoothish (for gla)
Unfortunalty the cabin was a bit tired and the pack them in seating aint good. For the first time in age's I've heard numerous pasengers complaining about the cramped conditions.
Couple of questions. How long have tcx had winglets on the 753's and do they make a diference?
For me the 75 series are the best looking aircraft around but is there a direct replacement for these old birds?
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G-JMAA / AB had winglets installed February / March this year.
As Topspotters says, ofcourse these winglets make a difference. They cost the airlines thousands to intstall but more than payback this cost in just a year or two. They help reduce fuel use of between 3.5 to 5.5% per flight depending on sector length as it reduce drag around the edges of the wing. The longer the flight the more fuel saved.
Aswell as fuel savings, the winglet retrofits also help improve take-off performance (less engine wear), increase payload and increase range.
As for the seat pitch, well unfortunately it has been pretty much the same in the charter market / low fare sector for the last 20-30 years so I cant see anything changing anytime soon. You could look at it in that you were flying on one of the most fuel efficent (per passenger) jet aircraft around today. (Presuming the loads were at or close to 280 pax each way)
As Topspotters says, ofcourse these winglets make a difference. They cost the airlines thousands to intstall but more than payback this cost in just a year or two. They help reduce fuel use of between 3.5 to 5.5% per flight depending on sector length as it reduce drag around the edges of the wing. The longer the flight the more fuel saved.
Aswell as fuel savings, the winglet retrofits also help improve take-off performance (less engine wear), increase payload and increase range.
As for the seat pitch, well unfortunately it has been pretty much the same in the charter market / low fare sector for the last 20-30 years so I cant see anything changing anytime soon. You could look at it in that you were flying on one of the most fuel efficent (per passenger) jet aircraft around today. (Presuming the loads were at or close to 280 pax each way)
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Topspotter:
Sorry for my ignorance, not all of use are as adept as you I'm sure, all I asked was a simple question and did not ask for a sharp reply, but I'll remember next time.
We did fly on G-JMAA reached 36,000ft outbound and 34,000ft inbound. Must say the winglets look cool. Are there plans to winglet the 752's. A regular continental 752 which comes into GLA utilises winglets.
Sorry for my ignorance, not all of use are as adept as you I'm sure, all I asked was a simple question and did not ask for a sharp reply, but I'll remember next time.
We did fly on G-JMAA reached 36,000ft outbound and 34,000ft inbound. Must say the winglets look cool. Are there plans to winglet the 752's. A regular continental 752 which comes into GLA utilises winglets.
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We did fly on G-JMAA reached 36,000ft outbound and 34,000ft inbound. Must say the winglets look cool. Are there plans to winglet the 752's. A regular continental 752 which comes into GLA utilises winglets.
All of the Continental Airlines 757s have winglets installed. Other airlines include Thomson Airways, Delta, Jet2, Icelandair.
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Has anyone heard of us getting rid of our B767's? A customer rang commenting about this but we haven't heard anything. I know one has gone to Condor and on is on lease for Hajj but this is due back in the fleet next week.
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